Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.privacy Subject: Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Date: 9 Jul 2025 16:32:20 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 72 Message-ID: References: <104gmdj$3es$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <104hi1m$34qnh$1@dont-email.me> X-Trace: individual.net jrgBiPFWKHPr0QKwdbbv/QWJay0BFyrwCAMMnGOk4Lkn8YeYeS Cancel-Lock: sha1:V+FGWlkmzv0MxZe5CumjtKJnp6A= sha256:GyhN591p2VT9SYxlw+tdK6N/JeTCkEAmCaSbc93JtLA= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:196306 comp.mobile.android:149714 alt.privacy:30485 On 2025-07-07, Alan wrote: > On 2025-07-07 10:42, Marion wrote: >> Topic: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices >> Why: Because it's a privacy issue of what others can do with your phone. >> >> I'm always curious what LE can do with your phone in their hands, >> where, in criminal cases, we get good records, under oath, of capability. >> >> In this case, four factory resets still enabled police to recover photos. >> Two of those factory resets occurred *after* the police confiscated it! >> >> This, in the BBC news today, shows that factory resetting your phone >> doesn't necessarily make the images stored on that phone, not recoverable. >> >> *The evidence in Erin Patterson's mushroom murder trial* >> >> "Forensic experts were also able to recover images on her mobile >> showing what looked like death cap mushrooms on weighing scales." >> >> When I saw that, I immediately thought using the word "recover" means she >> factory reset it, where running a few searches confirms multiple resets! > > Why would you immediately think that? > > "Recover" in this context could simply mean they weren't given the pass > code. > >> >> Two of the 4 factory resets occurred while the phone was in police custody! >> >> The Nightly reports that four factory resets were performed on one of >> Patterson's devices in 2023, including a remote wipe on August 6, >> which is the day *after* she handed the phone to police. >> *Text messages and factory resets revealed in Mushroom triple murder trial* >> > > But those resets were NOT done to the phone from which they recovered > the photos. The article says precisely that: > > 'Four factory resets of one device, mushroom photos on another' > > For a "man" who claims he only posts facts, you sure miss a lot. > >> >> Additionally, news in Australia cite specific court testimony & judicial >> summaries confirming that Patterson carried out 3 of the 4 factory resets >> herself, and that these resets were part of the prosecution's argument >> that she was attempting to conceal evidence (some of which they recovered). >> *Mushroom cook's incriminating conduct: Court* >> > > There is no support in that article for the contention that the photos > were recovered from the reset device. > > None. > >> >> *Judge in Erin Patterson's mushroom trial gives final instructions to the jury* >> >> >> On the topic of wiping out your phone, were you aware resets don't work? > > Again, literally not a word about data being recovered from a phone that > had been reset. Little Marion strikes out yet again... Pathetic troll. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR