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Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop

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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 01:32 this Monday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> writes:
>
>> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 15:20 this Friday (GMT):
>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 00:31 this Sunday (GMT):
>>>>> Has anyone ever tried this?
>>>>>
>>>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>>>> It is a text-based application where the entire user interface is
>>>>> represented by a mosaic of text cells forming a TUI matrix. The
>>>>> resulting TUI matrix is ​​just rendered either into its own GUI window or
>>>>> into a compatible text console.
>>>>>
>>>>> It can wrap any console application and be nested indefinitely, forming
>>>>> a text-based desktop environment.
>>>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>>>>
>>>>> Sources:
>>>>> https://github.com/directvt/vtm
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofkoxGjFWQ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's certainly a cool idea, but I don't see why you wouldn't just go
>>>> full terminal (tmux) or full ui (another wm). Maybe this would be useful
>>>> for SSH sessions, though?
>>>
>>> That's close to what I thought.  I think we've reached a point where a
>>> lot of good stuff is already done and we don't really need more, even
>>> though people can do amazing stuff.
>>
>> Reinventing the wheel can be good for learning, but I definitely agree.
>
> Indeed.  When studying something, reinventing the wheel is of primary
> importance.  I tend to say ``you don't master until you build it''.
> (And, in fact, building once is usually far from enough.)

Good to know.

>>> I'm currently reading an article whose title is ``[t]he computer built
>>> to last 50 years'' by Ploum, dated 2021 February 4Th.  (I should post it
>>> here.)  The article has this tone---we don't need to replace computers
>>> all the time.  Most of that ``need'' is actually just distraction.
>>>
>>> We suffer a lot from distraction.  If we remove all distraction, what
>>> happens?  We get distracted with what we have left---which is probably a
>>> pretty good deal. :)
>>
>> Productive distraction :D
>
> That's right. :D
>
>>> Even most of our conversations here on USENET would be classified as
>>> distraction.  But I don't think we should kill conversation because
>>> thinking is important in work and I do think thinking is kind of a
>>> collective thing.  
>>>
>>> I've had thoughts of working a lot in offline mode.  I could get USENET
>>> messages every Monday, say, and then spend the rest of the week in
>>> USENET offline mode.  Just that move is already a time saver because
>>> working in batch mode is /usually/ more efficient.
>>
>> I use slrnpull, but it's set up to sync every 10 minutes or so. Seeing a
>> ton of messages piled up makes me kinda nervous.
>
> Lol.  How about syncing it daily?


Maybe I will. It's just programmed using a crontab job anyway. The only
thing is I'd have to remember how to make it not download a max of 20
messages per sync. On the other hand, that would definitely help make it
not be an overwhelming amount of messages :D
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-08 21:31 -0300
  Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-13 21:00 +0000
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-14 12:20 -0300
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-14 19:50 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-15 22:57 +0100
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-03-16 11:32 -0400
            Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-19 23:53 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-16 22:32 -0300
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-21 18:50 +0000
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-15 23:00 +0100
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-21 18:40 +0000
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-21 22:13 +0100
            Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-23 14:20 +0000
              Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-23 22:21 +0100
  Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-03-16 08:52 +0000
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-17 14:27 -0300
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-19 06:54 +0000
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-04-19 08:20 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-24 00:20 +0000
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