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Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop

From Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop
Date 2025-03-16 22:32 -0300
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes:

> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 15:20 this Friday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> writes:
>>
>>> Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote at 00:31 this Sunday (GMT):
>>>> Has anyone ever tried this?
>>>>
>>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>>> It is a text-based application where the entire user interface is
>>>> represented by a mosaic of text cells forming a TUI matrix. The
>>>> resulting TUI matrix is ​​just rendered either into its own GUI window or
>>>> into a compatible text console.
>>>>
>>>> It can wrap any console application and be nested indefinitely, forming
>>>> a text-based desktop environment.
>>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8---
>>>>
>>>> Sources:
>>>> https://github.com/directvt/vtm
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kofkoxGjFWQ
>>>
>>>
>>> It's certainly a cool idea, but I don't see why you wouldn't just go
>>> full terminal (tmux) or full ui (another wm). Maybe this would be useful
>>> for SSH sessions, though?
>>
>> That's close to what I thought.  I think we've reached a point where a
>> lot of good stuff is already done and we don't really need more, even
>> though people can do amazing stuff.
>
> Reinventing the wheel can be good for learning, but I definitely agree.

Indeed.  When studying something, reinventing the wheel is of primary
importance.  I tend to say ``you don't master until you build it''.
(And, in fact, building once is usually far from enough.)

>> I'm currently reading an article whose title is ``[t]he computer built
>> to last 50 years'' by Ploum, dated 2021 February 4Th.  (I should post it
>> here.)  The article has this tone---we don't need to replace computers
>> all the time.  Most of that ``need'' is actually just distraction.
>>
>> We suffer a lot from distraction.  If we remove all distraction, what
>> happens?  We get distracted with what we have left---which is probably a
>> pretty good deal. :)
>
> Productive distraction :D

That's right. :D

>> Even most of our conversations here on USENET would be classified as
>> distraction.  But I don't think we should kill conversation because
>> thinking is important in work and I do think thinking is kind of a
>> collective thing.  
>>
>> I've had thoughts of working a lot in offline mode.  I could get USENET
>> messages every Monday, say, and then spend the rest of the week in
>> USENET offline mode.  Just that move is already a time saver because
>> working in batch mode is /usually/ more efficient.
>
> I use slrnpull, but it's set up to sync every 10 minutes or so. Seeing a
> ton of messages piled up makes me kinda nervous.

Lol.  How about syncing it daily?

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vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-08 21:31 -0300
  Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-13 21:00 +0000
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-14 12:20 -0300
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-14 19:50 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-15 22:57 +0100
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2025-03-16 11:32 -0400
            Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-19 23:53 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-16 22:32 -0300
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-21 18:50 +0000
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-15 23:00 +0100
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-21 18:40 +0000
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-21 22:13 +0100
            Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-03-23 14:20 +0000
              Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop D <nospam@example.net> - 2025-03-23 22:21 +0100
  Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-03-16 08:52 +0000
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> - 2025-03-17 14:27 -0300
    Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-19 06:54 +0000
      Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-04-19 08:20 +0000
        Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-24 00:20 +0000
          Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2025-04-24 11:04 +0000

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