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Re: How difficult is a payroll system?

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On Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:23:06 +0100, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2016-09-01, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-01, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:23:03 -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/31/2016 21:04, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-01/canada-ibm-payroll-debacle-
>>> echoes-queensland-health/7802944>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I find these stuff-ups hard to fathom. Just how complicated is a
>>>>> payroll system? Yes, it deals with lots of transactions, but each one
>>>>> is surely straight-forward.
>>>>
>>>> They ARE straight-forward.
>>>>
>>>> Unless you have to provide for over-time rules, union rules, state  
>>>> laws
>>>> and rules. state tax laws and rules, FSMCA rules and laws, FRA rules  
>>>> and
>>>> laws, OSHA rules and laws, differing plant rules, customs, practices,
>>>> and traditions and the rest of a forbidding pile of minutia.  Did I
>>>> mention GAAP?
>>>
>>> And constant changes from the government.
>>>
>>
>> Having worked on payroll, the yearly changes to tax and social
>> contributions seemed to be designed to break existing systems.  It
>> didn't matter how well you had parameterised your payroll system to
>> minimise the impact of regulatory changes, the government would find a
>> way that forced you to change your code.
>
> Having worked on payroll, I completely agree.
>
> I suspect many (most?) employers have solved this by outsourcing it.
>
I recall one huge program that was a whole heap of

if (in group A) and (this deduction)  then pay = pay - x


with the latest ones just stuck at the bottom, overriding (or did they?) a  
previous setting.
-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 12:04 +1000
  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 02:27 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-01 02:47 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 14:10 +1000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:12 +0000
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-01 21:48 +0200
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 14:14 +1000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:22 +0000
  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 22:23 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 06:44 +0000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:09 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-09-01 08:15 +0000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:27 +0000
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:16 -0500
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:43 +0200
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 07:28 +0100
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-01 21:18 +0200
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-01 21:23 +0000
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-03 08:17 +0100
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-03 12:17 +0000
              New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 22:12 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-05 20:00 -0400
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:36 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:42 -0500
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:13 +0200
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:46 +0200
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:26 +0000
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-18 08:56 +0100
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-18 10:18 +0200
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:20 -0500
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 21:41 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:11 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:30 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:25 +0000

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