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Re: How difficult is a payroll system?

From	Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: How difficult is a payroll system?
Date	2016-09-01 21:16 -0500
Organization	Yeah, right.
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On 9/1/2016 05:27, Rich wrote:
> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 22:23:03 -0500, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/31/2016 21:04, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> <http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-01/canada-ibm-payroll-debacle-
>> echoes-queensland-health/7802944>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I find these stuff-ups hard to fathom. Just how complicated is a
>>>> payroll system? Yes, it deals with lots of transactions, but each one
>>>> is surely straight-forward.
>>>
>>> They ARE straight-forward.
>>>
>>> Unless you have to provide for over-time rules, union rules, state laws
>>> and rules. state tax laws and rules, FSMCA rules and laws, FRA rules and
>>> laws, OSHA rules and laws, differing plant rules, customs, practices,
>>> and traditions and the rest of a forbidding pile of minutia.  Did I
>>> mention GAAP?
>>
>> And constant changes from the government.
>
> This one is often a big driver of the problem.  The typical
> politician/burecrat creating the constantly changing network of
> overlapping rules also drive the "automate the things" process as well,
> without understanding that their constant stream of rules changes mean
> a constant stream of software changes.  Apparently they don't quite
> understand the cause and effect that occurs there.
>
> And couple that with the fact that very seldom does an existing rule
> get removed.  It stays on, grandfathered for certian specific phases of
> the moon and such, further adding to the overall complexity.

This last 'graf operates as a multiplier from the needed myriad 
additions of "If payroll date is equal to or greater than...." forks at 
each microcosm of code.

-- 
quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
-- Juvenal

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How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 12:04 +1000
  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 02:27 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-01 02:47 +0000
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 14:10 +1000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:12 +0000
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-01 21:48 +0200
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-09-01 14:14 +1000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:22 +0000
  Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 22:23 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 06:44 +0000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:09 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-09-01 08:15 +0000
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-09-01 10:27 +0000
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:16 -0500
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:43 +0200
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? polygonum <rmoudndgers@vrod.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 07:28 +0100
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-01 21:18 +0200
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-01 21:23 +0000
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-09-03 08:17 +0100
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-03 12:17 +0000
              New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 22:12 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-09-05 20:00 -0400
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:36 -0500
                Re: New systems for old (was Re: How difficult is a payroll system?) Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 19:42 -0500
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:13 +0200
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:46 +0200
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:26 +0000
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-09-18 08:56 +0100
            Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-18 10:18 +0200
        Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:20 -0500
          Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 21:41 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 21:11 -0500
    Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-09-04 22:30 +0200
      Re: How difficult is a payroll system? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-09-04 21:25 +0000

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