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Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids

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On 26/04/2017 2:58 AM, Walter Banks wrote:
> On 2017-04-21 11:12 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Trevor <trevor@home.net> writes:
>>
>>
>> Anyone with hearing loss would do well to continue with annual
>> hearing evaluations.
>>
>> My audiologist uses some Windows based software to access the
>> hearing aids, I'd like a copy, and I don't buy any safety arguments.
>> But I don't know how to analyze the results of a hearing test and
>> convert that into hearing aid settings.  I'm not upset that I don't
>> have the software. It's probably just as well.
>>
>
> I got copies of the profiles that my audiologist created for my hearing
> aids. I programmed them into the audio system that my laptop uses. It
> meant that when I used Skype for telephone calls with minimal adjustment
> I got very good audio compensation for my hearing loss. With headphones
> to cut out outside noise this worked well.
>
> One thing I was convinced of was my audiologist knew a lot more about
> hearing compensation than I ever would. The hearing aids I have can deal
> with frequency shifting as well as frequency gain profiles. In a real
> world environment it is all about many levels of compromise.
>
> My hearing aids have a half dozen environment profiles so that I can
> select application code in them to cover the situation. Ears can be
> handled separately or the hearing aids can auto correlate the sound from
> the direction I am looking. Telephone app in the hearing aids will
> create audio in both ears from sound picked up from the receiver against
> one ear and profile gains to deal with the audio profile of the
> telephone. There is wireless communication between the ears (that can
> also have a third source)
>


This is true, and why fine tuning BY the person with the hearing loss is 
so critical. (The initial "first fit" is ALL taken care of by the 
software anyway from your audiogram) The audiologist can't hear what you 
are hearing though so it can take MUCH trial and error to get something 
you are happy with if you can't do it yourself. Suits the Audiologists 
of course. :-(

Trevor.

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