Re: [CM] Hearing aids --> back to Headphones

From	RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
Newsgroups	comp.misc, rec.audio.tech
Subject	Re: [CM] Hearing aids --> back to Headphones
Date	2017-04-22 20:38 +0000
Organization	solani.org
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On 2017-04-21, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> I find unsubstantiated cynicism disturbing.  It speaks to paranoia which
> is a mental illness.  Hearing aids are mostly not covered by any
> insurance, let alone US government payments.  Who knew audiologists have
> pension funds?  Apparently, only you.

An interesting and unfortunate segue.  Turns out Bose headphones have just
been observed sending data back to headquarters that includes some
surprisingly personal data, like lists of the songs you're listening to. 
You've got to install their Bose app on your smartphone for this to happen,
and you don't necessarily need the app.  Still, an issue.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bose-headphones-accused-lawsuit-spying-listeners-n748311

You can see where a bunch of audio engineers would find value in knowing
what songs were actually being listened to so they can tailor the equipment
to play that music well.  Still, an issue.

Lots of nerd rage at Hacker News:
http://fortune.com/2017/04/19/bose-headphones-privacy/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14148145

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[CM] Headphones RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-02-23 02:00 +0000
  Re: [CM] Headphones geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-19 23:05 +1200
    Re: [CM] Headphones Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2017-04-19 13:30 +0100
      Re: [CM] Headphones Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-04-19 15:55 -0300
        Re: [CM] Headphones The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 12:14 -0700
          Re: [CM] Headphones Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-04-19 20:06 -0400
          Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-04-19 21:49 -0400
            Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-20 19:34 +1000
              Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-21 08:00 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-21 14:27 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-22 00:17 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-23 12:10 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 01:15 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 20:52 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 22:40 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-04-21 11:12 -0400
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-21 20:29 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-04-21 18:28 -0400
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-21 23:04 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 20:59 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 20:56 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-23 22:09 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-24 10:48 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-24 06:16 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-24 17:58 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-24 14:33 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-25 20:29 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-25 11:57 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-25 22:04 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-25 14:33 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids -> Windows Wenk Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2017-04-25 15:56 +0100
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids -> Windows Wenk Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-25 23:01 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids -> Windows Wenk Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-26 01:17 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-26 16:48 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> - 2017-04-27 01:38 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-28 13:10 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2017-04-25 12:23 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-25 23:00 +1200
                Re: [CM] Hearing aids --> back to Headphones RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-04-22 20:38 +0000
                Re: [CM] Hearing aids --> back to Headphones Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-04-22 20:01 -0400
                Re: [CM] Hearing aids --> back to Headphones geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 20:59 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-23 12:28 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2017-04-22 23:32 -0400
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 21:02 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 19:23 -0500
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2017-04-25 12:58 -0400
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-26 16:57 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-04-21 16:31 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-23 12:35 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2017-04-21 16:54 +0000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-23 12:09 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 21:07 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-24 17:51 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-23 21:05 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-24 17:45 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids geoff <geoff@nospamgeoffwood.org> - 2017-04-25 00:08 +1200
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2017-04-24 15:29 -0400
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-04-24 17:49 -0300
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-25 20:35 +1000
                Re: [CM] Headphones -> Hearing aids Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-04-25 20:02 +1000

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