Re: EMP

From	jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Newsgroups	uk.radio.amateur, rec.radio.amateur.antenna, comp.misc
Subject	Re: EMP
Date	2015-11-18 01:54 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<ec2thc-434.ln1@mail.specsol.com> (permalink)
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
> Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 21:34:07 -0000, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> 
>> >In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
>> >> <jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> wrote:
>> >>> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 19:10:50 +0000, Fred Roberts <foo@bar.com> wrote:
>> >>> > 
>> >>> >>On 17/11/2015 18:30, gareth wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> Those who were self-taught to the exclusion of sideband and sidetone
>> >>> >>> are no doubt unaware that in the event of a nuclear detonation that
>> >>> >>> an EMP will melt the RF amps in their RXs because of the amount of
>> >>> >>> power that their antennae will pick up?
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Anyway, in the light of the events in Paris last Friday, and
>> >>> >>> previously the attack on the World Trade Centre on 11/9  the costly
>> >>> >>> and unnecessary nuclear deterrent doesn't seem to be working awfully
>> >>> >>> well, does it?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Well we haven't been nuked yet ;-)
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > Well the Soviet Nuclear weapon defence threat kept the Americans under
>> >>> > control for decades.
>> >>> 
>> >>> As well as the Brits.
>> >> 
>> >> The UK nuclear weapons are firmly under the control of the Americans
>> >> anyway, so I don't think we have them for other than ceremonial and
>> >> solidarity reasons.   They're not cheap either.
>> > 
>> >So if the UK were nuked, there would be no retaliation until the US
>> >allowed it?
>> >
>> The NATO treaty suggests that USA would have to retaliate also.
> 
> Isn't that a treaty obligation rather than an automatic military action
> though, so the US government would have to decide?  

The relation between the US and UK is so close the UK would have to do
something extremely stupid that caused it to get nuked before the US
would do anything other than immediate retaliation.
 

-- 
Jim Pennino

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EMP "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-17 18:30 +0000
  Re: EMP Fred Roberts <foo@bar.com> - 2015-11-17 19:10 +0000
    Re: EMP Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> - 2015-11-17 19:16 +0000
      Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 20:10 +0000
        Re: EMP roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2015-11-17 21:03 +0000
          Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 21:34 +0000
            Re: EMP Rambo <Rambo@thisaintreal.org> - 2015-11-17 22:06 +0000
              Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 22:26 +0000
              Re: EMP roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2015-11-18 00:31 +0000
                Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 01:54 +0000
            Re: EMP roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2015-11-18 00:31 +0000
              Re: EMP Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-11-18 01:19 +0000
                Re: EMP "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-18 11:23 +0000
              Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 02:07 +0000
                Re: EMP Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-11-18 02:39 +0000
          Re: EMP Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-11-18 01:19 +0000
            Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 02:09 +0000
            Re: EMP Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> - 2015-11-18 09:01 +0000
  Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 20:09 +0000
    Re: EMP Stephen Thomas Cole <usenet@stephenthomascole.com> - 2015-11-17 20:40 +0000
      Re: EMP "FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3vKi@turner-smith.uK> - 2015-11-19 00:23 +0000
        Re: EMP Brian Reay <no.sp@m.com> - 2015-11-19 00:29 +0000
          Re: EMP "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-19 04:40 +0000
            Re: EMP "FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI" <g3vKi@turner-smith.uK> - 2015-11-19 20:35 +0000
  Re: EMP "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-17 21:02 +0000
  Re: EMP "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> - 2015-11-17 13:56 -0800
    Re: EMP rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 17:30 -0500
      Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 22:38 +0000
        Re: EMP rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 17:53 -0500
          Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-17 23:12 +0000
            Re: EMP rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 23:36 -0500
              Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 06:03 +0000
                Re: EMP rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 08:12 -0500
                Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-18 19:19 +0000
              Re: EMP "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> - 2015-11-18 08:13 -0800
                Re: EMP rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 11:39 -0500
  Re: EMP AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2015-11-18 07:55 +0000
    Re: EMP Tom <donotreply@nothere.net> - 2015-11-19 19:12 -0600
      Re: EMP jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-20 02:43 +0000
  Re: EMP "Jim GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com> - 2015-11-21 18:54 +0000

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