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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers, comp.misc |
| Subject | Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros |
| Date | 2015-11-05 08:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d9vd8bFk5qlU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (16 earlier) <PM0005238E8B991D92@aca41e6b.ipt.aol.com> <n18i35$b9j$1@dont-email.me> <PM000523A25DF150C4@aca41ca4.ipt.aol.com> <n1ab3s$78u$1@dont-email.me> <PM000523B77150A949@aca40489.ipt.aol.com> |
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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM000523B77150A949@aca40489.ipt.aol.com... > gareth wrote: >> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:PM000523A25DF150C4@aca41ca4.ipt.aol.com... >>> gareth wrote: >>>> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message >>>> news:PM0005238E8B991D92@aca41e6b.ipt.aol.com... >>>>> gareth wrote: >>>>>> "Roger Blake" <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:20151101174450@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> On 2015-11-01, Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> I saw one a month or two ago for a company in LA or San Diego for a >>>>>>>> company looking for MACRO-11 programmers. I don't understand how >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> company has survived this long. I figure someone retired. They're >>>>>>>> supposedly porting to something else, but at the same time, they're >>>>>>>> generating NEW MACRO-11 code?!? >>>>>>> A lifetime ago I used to practically generate MACRO-11 code in my >>>>>>> sleep. >>>>>>> I'm surprised there's still a demand for that sort of thing, but >>>>>>> really >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> no wish to go back to it at this point. >>>>>> I don't see why not, because the language in which a project is coded >>>>>> is somewhat irrelevant following a competent design. >>>>> That's simply not true. A design is constrained by the machine >>>>> lanuguage the software runs on. >>>> Selecting a machine that will not run the program is a significant >>>> failure of system design. >>> Not all software projects include buying the hardware. Most projects >>> already had the computer system. >> >> Then it displays a fundamental lack of competence to design a program >> that >> will >> not run on the target machine. >> >> It remains for me, that whatever program I design, it will run whether >> coded >> in >> machine code, assembly language, FORTRAN, RTL/2, CORAL, C, Pascal, >> FORTH, CRAP, SOAS, or any of a myriad other languages that I have used. > > And the OS developers of this biz made it possible for you to be able to > do your coding job. Wrong again. I used no OS on the PDP8S, the serial one, that I used to measure fluorescent decay to below 1ns levels. > The language developers made it possible so > you didn't have to think about the hardware. I didn’t use any language, I used assembler. > All of these people had to do designs which > had tradeoffs determined by the computing > environment so that you wouldn't have to. They in fact designed the hardware so that it would do a decent job with any of the commonly used languages used in that segment of the industry. And fucked that up pretty comprehensively too at times like when DEC concentrated on Focal instead of Basic for various reasons etc.
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Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-10-31 20:40 +0300
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-31 16:09 -0400
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-10-31 20:53 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros artie <artie.m@gNOSPAMmail.com> - 2015-10-31 14:12 -0700
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-31 22:27 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-11-01 04:37 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2015-11-01 22:44 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-01 23:54 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-02 15:35 +0000
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Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-02 17:37 +0000
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Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:17 +1100
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Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 08:06 +1100
Re: Last Voyager engineer retires, NASA needs Fortran/Algol pros "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-02 20:48 +0000
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