Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Salvador Mirzo Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: vtm: tiling window manager with drag and drop Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 22:32:46 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 67 Message-ID: <877c4ol9vl.fsf@example.com> References: <87ecz79h8k.fsf@example.com> <87o6y3skoo.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 18:19:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c12e3b218f24b2c483e436c9f39cec23"; logging-data="627074"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ieEt04yjsKgwVqLqfSylCWURIm5fHu18=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:0n5yVFFXdKgSXpa2ZKX4jmqIKqc= sha1:A1wWLsHhj60PtKhx4rQwaTk//NY= Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:26921 candycanearter07 writes: > Salvador Mirzo wrote at 15:20 this Friday (GMT): >> candycanearter07 >> writes: >> >>> Salvador Mirzo wrote at 00:31 this Sunday (GMT): >>>> Has anyone ever tried this? >>>> >>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >>>> It is a text-based application where the entire user interface is >>>> represented by a mosaic of text cells forming a TUI matrix. The >>>> resulting TUI matrix is =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8Bjust rendered either into it= s own GUI window or >>>> into a compatible text console. >>>> >>>> It can wrap any console application and be nested indefinitely, forming >>>> a text-based desktop environment. >>>> --8<-------------------------------------------------------->8--- >>>> >>>> Sources: >>>> https://github.com/directvt/vtm >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkofkoxGjFWQ >>> >>> >>> It's certainly a cool idea, but I don't see why you wouldn't just go >>> full terminal (tmux) or full ui (another wm). Maybe this would be useful >>> for SSH sessions, though? >> >> That's close to what I thought. I think we've reached a point where a >> lot of good stuff is already done and we don't really need more, even >> though people can do amazing stuff. > > Reinventing the wheel can be good for learning, but I definitely agree. Indeed. When studying something, reinventing the wheel is of primary importance. I tend to say ``you don't master until you build it''. (And, in fact, building once is usually far from enough.) >> I'm currently reading an article whose title is ``[t]he computer built >> to last 50 years'' by Ploum, dated 2021 February 4Th. (I should post it >> here.) The article has this tone---we don't need to replace computers >> all the time. Most of that ``need'' is actually just distraction. >> >> We suffer a lot from distraction. If we remove all distraction, what >> happens? We get distracted with what we have left---which is probably a >> pretty good deal. :) > > Productive distraction :D That's right. :D >> Even most of our conversations here on USENET would be classified as >> distraction. But I don't think we should kill conversation because >> thinking is important in work and I do think thinking is kind of a >> collective thing.=20=20 >> >> I've had thoughts of working a lot in offline mode. I could get USENET >> messages every Monday, say, and then spend the rest of the week in >> USENET offline mode. Just that move is already a time saver because >> working in batch mode is /usually/ more efficient. > > I use slrnpull, but it's set up to sync every 10 minutes or so. Seeing a > ton of messages piled up makes me kinda nervous. Lol. How about syncing it daily?