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Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division

From Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to>
Newsgroups comp.misc
Subject Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division
Date 2024-11-09 17:18 -0300
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Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:

> On 09.11.2024 um 09:50 Uhr Wolfgang Agnes wrote:
>
>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> writes:
>> 
>> > On 09.11.2024 um 09:13 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> >  
>> >>  "The Mozilla Foundation is reorganizing teams to increase agility 
>> >>  and impact as we accelerate our work to ensure a more open and 
>> >>  equitable technical future for us all.  
>> >
>> > Maybe they should drop all the agile stuff.  
>> 
>> Lol---you are a non-believer!  What's wrong with the agile stuff?
>
> It is mostly management BS and buzzwords, I haven't seen a real outcome
> of such ideas yet.

Same here.  I view the situation as a major sign of failure.  It seems
the whole world is on the same boat, though.  I don't know of any
company that has not bought into all this nonsense---they may exist (and
I hope they do), but surely I don't know the routine of every company
out there.  ``Software engineering'' in the universities are also going
in the same direction.  In fact, one thing I observe in the universities
is that the academics in ``software engineering'' are actually the
manager-types who are not (at the same time) programmers, which is a
terrible sign.  I hope I'm not offending anyone, but it's really how I
think.

If something is very difficult and people find it hard to accept that it
is difficult, then they make these programs of management and education
thinking that they can make progress little by little.  It's a certain
Religion of Progress or something like that.

But not everything can be made right---little by little---simply because
one wants it.  To advance things, sometimes you really need to have the
right insight.  There are hard things to do in this life.

We also live a certain overconfidence in science.  There are very few
scientists doing relevant work, but there's a widespread belief that
science (and technology) will always solve everything---it's always just
a matter of time; someone will figure it out.  Ask people and you will
see---almost nobody understands anything about quantum computing or
artificial intelligence, but nearly everyone thinks that it's a matter
of a short time and all the quantum computing will be here for the next
revolution.  And I need say nothing about artificial intelligence
because everyone is well-aware about the all the hype.

On the other hand, though, I totally understand the fears: academics are
fearful of not having anything to say and managers either invent
something whatever or they have a nervous breakdown out of fear of
losing their jobs.  And some really do.  They have a deep sense of
incapacity: it seems they never find a way to put their lives to good
use.  It's a very sorry situation.

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[LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-09 09:13 +1000
  Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-11-09 07:49 +0100
    Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> - 2024-11-09 09:50 -0300
      Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-11-09 20:05 +0100
        Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> - 2024-11-09 17:18 -0300
          Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-11-09 22:24 +0000
          Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2024-11-10 16:02 +0000
            Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@example.com> - 2024-11-13 10:10 -0300
              Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-13 22:06 +0000
        Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2024-11-10 20:06 +0000
    Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:40 +0100
  Re: [LINK] Mozilla Foundation lays off 30% staff, drops advocacy division D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-09 14:39 +0100

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