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Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb

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On May 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Christopher Dicely <cmdicely@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Brian Xue <brxue.cn@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,


I have some puzzles, when I start irb,


puts self

=> main

puts self.class

=> Object


After that, if I write the following method,


def hello; end

=>nil


then where is the method "hello" defined? within Object? but


self.class.instance_methods.include? :hello

=>false


Right, because its not defined as an instance method in the Object
class, its defined as an instance method in the singleton class of the
current object (main).

So, in IRB for Ruby 1.8.7 after the above

(class <<self; end).instance_methods.include? "hello"
=> true

For some reason, IRB for Ruby 1.9.2 is weird, and I can't find the
method anywhere, even though the method works. Even respond_to?
ignores it:

ruby 1.9.2p180 (2011-02-18 revision 30909) [x86_64-linux]
christopher@ubuntu:~$ irb
ruby-1.9.2-p180 :001 > def hello
ruby-1.9.2-p180 :002?>   "hello"
ruby-1.9.2-p180 :003?>   end
=> nil
ruby-1.9.2-p180 :004 > hello
=> "hello"
ruby-1.9.2-p180 :005 > self.respond_to? :hello
=> false

Its back to working again in head, which shows the cleaner 1.9 syntax:

christopher@ubuntu:~$ ruby -v
ruby 1.9.3dev (2011-05-02 trunk 31407) [x86_64-linux]
christopher@ubuntu:~$ irb
ruby-head :001 > def hello
ruby-head :002?>   "hello"
ruby-head :003?>   end
=> nil
ruby-head :004 > hello
=> "hello"
ruby-head :005 > self.respond_to? :hello
=> true
ruby-head :006 > self.singleton_class.instance_methods.include? :hello
=> true


Methods defined at the top level are created as a private instance method on
the Object class. You can use public/private at the top level to change the
visibility used. In this case, try Object.private_instance_methods(false) .

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where does the pure method defined when starting irb Brian Xue <brxue.cn@gmail.com> - 2011-05-12 04:40 -0500
  Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb jake kaiden <jakekaiden@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 06:17 -0500
  Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Christopher Dicely <cmdicely@gmail.com> - 2011-05-12 09:57 -0500
    Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Michael Edgar <adgar@carboni.ca> - 2011-05-12 10:12 -0500
    Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 14:00 -0500
      Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Brian Xue <brxue.cn@gmail.com> - 2011-05-12 18:57 -0500
        Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 21:07 -0500
          Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Brian Xue <brxue.cn@gmail.com> - 2011-05-16 19:54 -0500
            Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Michael Edgar <adgar@carboni.ca> - 2011-05-16 20:00 -0500
              Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb Brian Xue <brxue.cn@gmail.com> - 2011-05-16 21:24 -0500
      Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 18:58 -0500
  Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 13:21 -0500
  Re: where does the pure method defined when starting irb 7stud -- <bbxx789_05ss@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-12 13:53 -0500

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