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Re: Chad Perrin

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*Ryan,*

Ryan Davis wrote:
> On Apr 14, 2011, at 14:24 , Everett L Williams II wrote:
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>> *Hasn't anybody in the management of this forum the guts to either quiet or dispatch Chad Perrin before he manages to do more damage than he already has.
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> While I find Chad to be a complete ass on many occasions, including (especially?) on the Functional programming thread, I don't see how it would even be feasible or reasonable to do anything. This "forum" as you call it is both a mailing list, a usenet group, and at least one web forum.
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> The "damage" that Chad causes is irritating at best. The rest is in your head.
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And in the head of every noob who stumbles into his arrogant and ill 
tempered rants.
>> He cannot be reasoned with, he sees all who disagree with him as the enemy, and he attacks constantly.
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> I completely agree. And?
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>> However much he may contribute to Ruby, he will contribute to it's demise if he continues without moderation.
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> The ironic part is I know of absolutely no public contributions (gems, etc) to ruby coming from chad other than his participation on this mailing list.
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> Chad cannot contribute to Ruby's "demise"... at this point, you sound like a drama queen. Or maybe a teenage emo girl. Those might be equivalent.
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Cute, but I have been on the internet since it was ARPANET. My company 
used it to transfer an IBM compatible Pascal for the Australian AED for 
use on a project. As in your case, he merely irritates me, but his 
attacks on noobs ideas or anything that is not spelled as Ruby will 
chase of those newcomers before they can become active, at least in some 
cases. And, he accuses anyone who argues with him of being a troll. That 
is not something that is good for the language. If there is no 
moderation hereabouts that can at least admonish, then this is less and 
less likely to be a useful place. If that is being a drama queen or emo  
as you so sweetly put it, then I am guilty as accused. Since I am 
leaving, you and those like you will have to judge how long you can put 
up with such nonsense.

I have no idea of Chad's contributions or lack thereof. I have just 
noted that he often replies to noobs.
>> He appears to be quite expert in Ruby, but if he attacks every other method of working as if it were the enemy, he cannot benefit the cause in either the short or the long run. In any case, he has certainly caused me to lose my taste for further adventures in Ruby. That is no great loss, but others might be.
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> While that is certainly your choice... I'd suggest you man up and learn to ignore people you don't like. Chad != Ruby. The world (and the internet) is a harsh mistress and you need a thicker skin if you're to get anything done.
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This isn't a testosterone joust. It is supposed to be a place where 
ideas are discussed and help is asked and offered. My suggestion to you 
is not to offer foolish advice that you would not offer in person.
It is certainly difficult to have any respect for an individual who has 
so little respect for teachers, when it is a skill that, by his own 
admission, he lacks. And, by the way, I can play just as rough as the 
next person, but I seldom find it necessary or desirable. Having 
examined Ruby fairly closely, I leave because I don't find it worth the 
effort, especially when that involves putting up with nonsense like 
Chad. I attempted to take the discussion offline, but now he complains 
that is harassment. Since there is no venue for complaint, I have posted 
in the forum, and I am leaving, so you may dissect the corpse as you will.

Everett L.(Rett) Williams II
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> You can unsubscribe yourself.
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Re: Chad Perrin Everett L Williams II <rett@classicnet.net> - 2011-04-14 16:24 -0500
  Re: Chad Perrin Adam Prescott <adam@aprescott.com> - 2011-04-14 16:38 -0500
  Re: Chad Perrin Johnny Morrice <spoon@killersmurf.com> - 2011-04-14 18:14 -0500
    Re: Chad Perrin Vincent Manis <vmanis@telus.net> - 2011-04-14 19:35 -0500
      Re: Chad Perrin Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 19:59 -0500
  Re: Chad Perrin Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> - 2011-04-14 20:25 -0500
    Re: Chad Perrin Everett L Williams II <rett@classicnet.net> - 2011-04-15 12:12 -0500
      Re: Chad Perrin Josh Cheek <josh.cheek@gmail.com> - 2011-04-15 12:42 -0500
    Re: Chad Perrin Matt Lawrence <matt@technoronin.com> - 2011-04-15 13:36 -0500
      Re: Chad Perrin Reid Thompson <reid.thompson@ateb.com> - 2011-04-15 14:25 -0500
  Re: Chad Perrin Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2011-04-15 08:12 -0500
  Re: Chad Perrin Kevin Mahler <kevin.mahler@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-15 15:51 -0500

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