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  Python programming ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 16:21 -0800
    Re: Python programming Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-02-12 00:54 +0000
    Re:Python programming Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2014-02-11 20:11 -0500
      Re:Python programming Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 01:21 +0000
        Re: Python programming Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 20:26 -0500
      Re: Python programming ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 17:29 -0800
    Re: Python programming Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-12 12:26 +1100
    Re: Python programming Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 22:19 -0500
    Re: Python programming Asdrúbal Iván Suárez <asdrubalivan.listas@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 20:30 -0430
    Re: Python programming Ben Abramowitz <benjaminabramowitz@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 20:04 -0800

#65965 — Python programming

Please i have a silly question to ask.

How long did it take you to learn how to write programs?

What is the best way i can master thinker?
I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem

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#65968

On 12/02/2014 00:21, ngangsia akumbo wrote:
> Please i have a silly question to ask.
>
> How long did it take you to learn how to write programs?
>
> What is the best way i can master thinker?
> I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem
>

You *NEVER* stop learning.

To become a master thinker take a degree in philosophy.

On the other hand to master tkinter search for a tutorial that you can 
follow.  Or if you're feeling brave help out with tkinter or IDLE issues 
on the bug tracker at bugs.python.org :)

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#65971

 ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> Please i have a silly question to ask.
> 

No silly questions,  just silly answers. 

> How long did it take you to learn how to write programs?
> 
An hour,  twenty years.   It took an hour to learn how the
 keypunch worked, where the manuals were mounted,  and how to
 submit unauthorized card decks to the college computer.
 

Twenty years to find out that managing people was harder than
 managing computer languages. 

I did some of my best work before I learned that some of those
 problems were impossible. 

> What is the best way i can master thinker?

Never heard of it. Is it a computer language? 

> I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem
> 


-- 
DaveA

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#65973

Dave Angel wrote:

>> What is the best way i can master thinker?
>
> Never heard of it. Is it a computer language? 
>
Socrates himself is particularly missed

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#65975

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave Angel wrote:
>
>>> What is the best way i can master thinker?
>>
>> Never heard of it. Is it a computer language?
>>
> Socrates himself is particularly missed

A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.

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#65976

On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 2:11:39 AM UTC+1, Dave Angel wrote:
> ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> Wrote in message:

python GUI Tkinter

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#65974

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> wrote:
> I did some of my best work before I learned that some of those
>  problems were impossible.

Sounds like something from the invention of Post-It Notes. I can't
find an authoritative source, but it's all over the internet,
attributed to Spencer Silver:

"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The
literature was full of examples that said you can't do this."

Programming is often like this. Actually, computing generally. The
literature was full of examples that said that "Alice: Madness
Returns" required Windows 7, a hot video card, and so on. Turns out
that Linux and Wine will do the job quite nicely. Never mind that the
makers are completely uninterested in helping... I just did some
leg-work and got my favourite recent game going under my favourite
operating system :)

ChrisA

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#65987

On 2/11/2014 7:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo wrote:

 > Please i have a silly question to ask.
 >
 > How long did it take you to learn how to write programs?
 >
 > What is the best way i can master thinker?
 > I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem

Here's one way to learn:

Start with a manual (the online Python and Tkinter manuals are fine)
and a computer.

While (true):

   Write some code using skills that you have plus at least one new
   thing you've never done before that you will master and add to
   your skills.

   If you're not having fun:

     break

To start, a total beginner might try things that take 10 minutes and
3 lines of code.  Over time the skills he has will keep increasing
and he'll find himself writing longer programs that take more time
to write and produce more interesting outputs.

The key is to have fun.  If you find this work interesting and
absorbing, you'll learn quickly and you'll enjoy all the time that
you spend on it.  You might get good enough in just a few months to
try some very significant and useful programs.  You won't be ready
to write commercial software, but you'll be on your way.

If you find it uninteresting, boring, or impossible to understand,
then programming might not be the right thing for you.  That doesn't
mean you aren't smart.  I've met some very smart people who don't
like programming and aren't good at it.

There are already too many programmers who don't really like
programming and just learned it because they thought they could get
good jobs.  Most of them wind up with relatively bad jobs and are
not respected by their colleagues.  Don't join that crowd.

Best of luck.

    Alan

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2014-02-11 20:24 GMT-04:30 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>:
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>
>
>
> To become a master thinker take a degree in philosophy.
>
> On the other hand to master tkinter search for a tutorial that you can
> follow.  Or if you're feeling brave help out with tkinter or IDLE issues on
> the bug tracker at bugs.python.org :)
>
>
That's a good option too!

Once you know the basics, try this book --> http://inventwithpython.com/


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> you can do for our language.
>
> Mark Lawrence
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I started learning python 3.3 for 13 days (including today) ago, using this
book, with no programming experience:
http://openbookproject.net/thinkcs/python/english3e/index.html

the fact that the author uses the python turtle to teach readers object
orientated programming,
has been ALL the difference.

by chapter 4, you are writing basic void and fruitful functions. it is
awesome.

it has exercises at the end of every chapter, that if you grind out, you
learn a truckload from. and progress.
If you put in the time, and glue your butt to a seat for as long as you
can, as many days in a row, the results are very satisfying.

the book is free. I highly recommend it.




On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM, ngangsia akumbo <ngangsia@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please i have a silly question to ask.
>
> How long did it take you to learn how to write programs?
>
> What is the best way i can master thinker?
> I know the syntax but using it to write a program is a problem
> --
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

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