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| Started by | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-04-15 07:50 +1000 |
| Last post | 2013-04-15 07:47 +0200 |
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Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-04-15 07:50 +1000
Re: Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer@sschwarzer.net> - 2013-04-15 07:47 +0200
| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-04-15 07:50 +1000 |
| Subject | Grammar question: Englisn and Python: qualified names |
| Message-ID | <mailman.607.1365976228.3114.python-list@python.org> |
Quirky question time!
When you read out a qualified name, eg collections.OrderedDict, do you
read the qualifier ("collections dot ordered dict"), or do you elide
it ("ordered dict")? I ask because it makes a difference to talking
about just one of them:
... or possibly a collections.OrderedDict...
... or possibly an collections.OrderedDict...
Written, the latter looks completely wrong; but if the name is read in
its short form, with the "collections" part being implicit, then "an"
is clearly correct! What do you think, experts and others?
ChrisA
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| From | Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer@sschwarzer.net> |
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| Date | 2013-04-15 07:47 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <516B9478.6020607@sschwarzer.net> |
| In reply to | #43583 |
Hi Chris,
On 2013-04-14 23:50, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Quirky question time!
>
> When you read out a qualified name, eg collections.OrderedDict, do you
> read the qualifier ("collections dot ordered dict"), or do you elide
> it ("ordered dict")? I ask because it makes a difference to talking
> about just one of them:
>
> ... or possibly a collections.OrderedDict...
> ... or possibly an collections.OrderedDict...
>
> Written, the latter looks completely wrong; but if the name is read in
> its short form, with the "collections" part being implicit, then "an"
> is clearly correct! What do you think, experts and others?
I think if you _write_ "collections.OrderedDict", the
article you _write_ in front should match this. The phrase
"an collections.OrderedDict" looks odd to me, and if I read
it somewhere, it wouldn't cross my mind that the writer used
"an collections.OrderedDict" with the idea not to pronounce
"collections". ;-) In my opinion, this is too subtle.
On the other hand, when you _speak_ about the ordered dict,
use the article matching what you actually say.
Best regards,
Stefan
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