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  Homework help requested (not what you think!) John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-07-16 15:43 -0700
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) David Hutto <dwightdhutto@gmail.com> - 2013-07-16 19:51 -0400
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-07-16 20:53 -0400
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 10:40 +1000
      Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-18 12:47 +0000
        Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Gene Heskett <gheskett@wdtv.com> - 2013-07-18 09:38 -0400
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 11:34 +1000
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 16:35 +1000
      Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) PythonAB <python@rgbaz.eu> - 2013-07-17 10:31 +0200
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-17 06:51 +0000
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-07-17 09:33 +0100
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-17 13:20 +0000
      Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 23:29 +1000
        Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-07-17 13:55 +0000
          Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 00:05 +1000
        Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-07-18 12:09 +1000
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Aseem Bansal <asmbansal2@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 21:57 -0700
    Re: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Beth McNany <beth.mcnany@gmail.com> - 2013-07-17 18:03 -0400
    RE: Homework help requested (not what you think!) Joseph Clark <joeclark77@hotmail.com> - 2013-07-18 08:46 -0700
    Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-07-21 13:49 -0700
      Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 10:25 +1000
        Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-21 20:57 -0400
      RE: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Joseph Clark <joeclark77@hotmail.com> - 2013-07-21 20:10 -0700
        PyGLet on Python 3 John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 23:24 -0700
          Re: PyGLet on Python 3 Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-07-25 09:35 -0400
            Re: PyGLet on Python 3 John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2013-07-25 15:27 -0700
      Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-22 12:01 -0500
      Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-07-22 19:39 -0400

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#51024 — Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:49 AM, John Ladasky
<john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator.  (But do kids today even know what Pig Latin is?  Am I showing my age?)


Even if they don't, they'll grok it no problem. It's simple enough.

ChrisA

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#51026 — Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.

In article <mailman.4968.1374452717.3114.python-list@python.org>,
 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:49 AM, John Ladasky
> <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator.  (But do kids 
> > today even know what Pig Latin is?  Am I showing my age?)
> 
> 
> Even if they don't, they'll grok it no problem. It's simple enough.
> 
> ChrisA

Igpay ythonpay!

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#51028 — RE: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.

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John, have you taken a look at pyglet?  It's an alternative to pygame and I found it pretty slick once I got the hang of it.  There is a development version that's compatible with python 3 and I've never had a bug with it.  It wraps OpenGL itself so there are no additional dependencies.



// joseph w. clark , phd , visiting research associate
\\ university of nebraska at omaha - college of IS&T
 
> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 13:49:40 -0700
> Subject: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.
> From: john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net
> To: python-list@python.org
> 
> Thanks to everyone for their wealth of suggestions.  I already had my students playing with turtle.  And I had asked them to alphabetize a string (without having previously revealed the sorted() function).
> 
> So far, I have taken up the suggestion of the number-guessing game.  One of my students has a working version.  The logic is a bit clumsy, but it's a fine first attempt.
> 
> I will also take up the Twenty Questions idea.  My son and I played that game a lot over the years, to pass the time on long car rides.  And it would be a great way to introduce the binary tree data structure.
> 
> Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator.  (But do kids today even know what Pig Latin is?  Am I showing my age?)
> 
> Concerning more advanced, real-time, game-oriented graphics, I am trying to figure out how to build PyGame on top of Python3.x.  Supposedly it is possible.  I just haven't figured out how.  It's 2013: I refuse to complicate my students' programming education with Python 2.x.
> 
> I used wxPython happily for years, and I think that its graphical capabilities would probably be up to the task of a simple 2D game.  Unfortunately, it has the same problem as PyGame, at least for now.  The Py3-compatible version of wxPython, to be known as Phoenix, is still under development.
> 
> I'll keep Unity, Panda3D, and Blender in mind for later.  Again, one of my main concerns will be Python 3.x compatibility.
> -- 
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
 		 	   		  

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#51071 — PyGLet on Python 3

On 07/21/2013 08:10 PM, Joseph Clark wrote:
> John, have you taken a look at pyglet?  It's an alternative to pygame and I found it pretty slick once I got the hang of it.  There is a development version that's compatible with python 3 and I've never had a bug with it.  It wraps OpenGL itself so there are no additional dependencies.
>
>
> // joseph w. clark , phd , visiting research associate
> \\ university of nebraska at omaha - college of IS&T
>  
Hi Joe,

Thanks for the PyGLet recommendation.  I like OpenGL.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to get PyGLet to work, even though the pyglet.org front page claims that "the major 1.2alpha1 release brings pyglet to Python 3."  

I followed the links to this page:

https://code.google.com/p/pyglet/downloads/list?q=1.2alpha1

I installed pyglet on my Linux system's Python 3.3 using distutils, as I have done with many other packages.  But I can't run test.py, nor can I even get as far as importing pyglet from my Python 3.3 interpreter command line.  The obstacle is apparently Python 2.x-style print statements, which are found throughout tests.py and pyglet/__init__.py.

Does anyone know an efficient way around this problem?  Thanks!

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#51216 — Re: PyGLet on Python 3

On 07/23/2013 02:24 AM, John Ladasky wrote:
> On 07/21/2013 08:10 PM, Joseph Clark wrote:
>> John, have you taken a look at pyglet?  It's an alternative to pygame and I found it pretty slick once I got the hang of it.  There is a development version that's compatible with python 3 and I've never had a bug with it.  It wraps OpenGL itself so there are no additional dependencies.
>>
>>
>> // joseph w. clark , phd , visiting research associate
>> \\ university of nebraska at omaha - college of IS&T
>>   
> Hi Joe,
>
> Thanks for the PyGLet recommendation.  I like OpenGL.  Unfortunately, I can't seem to get PyGLet to work, even though the pyglet.org front page claims that "the major 1.2alpha1 release brings pyglet to Python 3."
>
> I followed the links to this page:
>
> https://code.google.com/p/pyglet/downloads/list?q=1.2alpha1
>
> I installed pyglet on my Linux system's Python 3.3 using distutils, as I have done with many other packages.  But I can't run test.py, nor can I even get as far as importing pyglet from my Python 3.3 interpreter command line.  The obstacle is apparently Python 2.x-style print statements, which are found throughout tests.py and pyglet/__init__.py.
>
> Does anyone know an efficient way around this problem?  Thanks!
I cannot get Pyglet to work. I successfully installed the module and it 
imports successfully, but a previously suggested command does not work. 
I use Python3.

 >>> import pyglet
 >>> pyglet.media.load('./boot.ogg', streaming=False).play()
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'media'

Mahalo,

DCJ

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#51264 — Re: PyGLet on Python 3

Hi Devyn.  After I didn't get a response concerning PyGLet inside this thread, I started another thread.  It's here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/ARtI0GC9RHc

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#51053 — Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.

John> Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator.  (But
do kids today
John> even know what Pig Latin is?  Am I showing my age?)

Chris> Even if they don't, they'll grok it no problem. It's simple enough.

Google for "Python pig latin" to see a lot of "prior art".

And it might be useful as a step as part of a word-based password generator. :-)

>>> words = open("/usr/dict/words")
>>> words = [word.strip() for word in words if len(word) == 5]
>>> len(words)
2194
>>> import random
>>> random.shuffle(words)
>>> words[0:4]
['live', 'skat', 'levy', 'cove']
>>> [makePigLatin(word) for word in words[0:4]]
['ivelay', 'atskay', 'evylay', 'ovecay']

:-)

Skip

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#51062 — Re: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone.

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:25:14 +1000, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
declaimed the following:

>On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:49 AM, John Ladasky
><john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator.  (But do kids today even know what Pig Latin is?  Am I showing my age?)
>
>
>Even if they don't, they'll grok it no problem. It's simple enough.
>
	Or some of the other variant means of obscuring words...

	"igpay atinlay" is relatively simple... But there is the "op" scheme:
"popigop lopatopinop" (If I remember the proper application) or "ab":
"pabig labatabin" style... (again, I'm dredging up 40 year old memories).

-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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