Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.038 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'tree': 0.05; 'binary': 0.07; 'subject:help': 0.08; 'string': 0.09; 'complicate': 0.09; 'logic': 0.09; 'suggestions.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; '(without': 0.16; 'advanced,': 0.16; 'attempt.': 0.16; 'clark': 0.16; 'function).': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'pygame': 0.16; 'pygame,': 0.16; 'received:65.55.116.73': 0.16; 'sorted()': 0.16; 'wraps': 0.16; 'wxpython': 0.16; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; '(but': 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'previously': 0.22; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.22; 'phd': 0.24; 'received:65.55.116': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'task': 0.26; 'pass': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'to:2**1': 0.27; 'is?': 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; '3.x': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'compatible': 0.32; 'figure': 0.32; 'another': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'development.': 0.33; 'date:': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'possible.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'everyone.': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'thanks': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'subject:': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'university': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'wealth': 0.60; 'son': 0.61; 'simple': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'education': 0.64; 'today': 0.64; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'email name:python-list': 0.65; 'hang': 0.67; 'revealed': 0.68; 'college': 0.70; 'car': 0.72; 'jul': 0.74; 'introduce': 0.78; 'visiting': 0.79; '2013:': 0.84; 'homework': 0.84; 'how.': 0.84; 'phoenix,': 0.84; 'played': 0.84; "students'": 0.84; 'graphical': 0.91; 'refuse': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-TMN: [12kAhd+J8D8TL7Se4cfppd+9LzJDzZUq] X-Originating-Email: [joeclark77@hotmail.com] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7af24b6a-99f9-4814-99fa-7a0a4e27ca51_" From: Joseph Clark To: John Ladasky , "python-list@python.org" Subject: RE: Homework help requested, thanks to everyone. Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 20:10:50 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0b359a38-4f8a-49c4-95f1-778865ce894a@googlegroups.com> References: <44c11575-2481-4220-9d3c-b53879e9cd8f@googlegroups.com>, <0b359a38-4f8a-49c4-95f1-778865ce894a@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2013 03:10:51.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[12294860:01CE8689] X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 105 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1374462719 news.xs4all.nl 15875 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59971 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:51028 --_7af24b6a-99f9-4814-99fa-7a0a4e27ca51_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John=2C have you taken a look at pyglet? It's an alternative to pygame and= I found it pretty slick once I got the hang of it. There is a development= version that's compatible with python 3 and I've never had a bug with it. = It wraps OpenGL itself so there are no additional dependencies. // joseph w. clark =2C phd =2C visiting research associate \\ university of nebraska at omaha - college of IS&T =20 > Date: Sun=2C 21 Jul 2013 13:49:40 -0700 > Subject: Homework help requested=2C thanks to everyone. > From: john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net > To: python-list@python.org >=20 > Thanks to everyone for their wealth of suggestions. I already had my stu= dents playing with turtle. And I had asked them to alphabetize a string (w= ithout having previously revealed the sorted() function). >=20 > So far=2C I have taken up the suggestion of the number-guessing game. On= e of my students has a working version. The logic is a bit clumsy=2C but i= t's a fine first attempt. >=20 > I will also take up the Twenty Questions idea. My son and I played that = game a lot over the years=2C to pass the time on long car rides. And it wo= uld be a great way to introduce the binary tree data structure. >=20 > Another project I thought of was a Pig Latin translator. (But do kids to= day even know what Pig Latin is? Am I showing my age?) >=20 > Concerning more advanced=2C real-time=2C game-oriented graphics=2C I am t= rying to figure out how to build PyGame on top of Python3.x. Supposedly it= is possible. I just haven't figured out how. It's 2013: I refuse to comp= licate my students' programming education with Python 2.x. >=20 > I used wxPython happily for years=2C and I think that its graphical capab= ilities would probably be up to the task of a simple 2D game. Unfortunatel= y=2C it has the same problem as PyGame=2C at least for now. The Py3-compat= ible version of wxPython=2C to be known as Phoenix=2C is still under develo= pment. >=20 > I'll keep Unity=2C Panda3D=2C and Blender in mind for later. Again=2C on= e of my main concerns will be Python 3.x compatibility. > --=20 > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list = --_7af24b6a-99f9-4814-99fa-7a0a4e27ca51_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John=2C have you taken a look at= pyglet? =3B It's an alternative to pygame and I found it pretty slick = once I got the hang of it. =3B There is a development version that's co= mpatible with python 3 and I've never had a bug with it. =3B It wraps O= penGL itself so there are no additional dependencies.



// jos= eph w. clark =2C phd =3B=2C =3Bvisiting research associate
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&= gt=3B Date: Sun=2C 21 Jul 2013 13:49:40 -0700
>=3B Subject: Homework h= elp requested=2C thanks to everyone.
>=3B From: john_ladasky@sbcglobal= .net
>=3B To: python-list@python.org
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>=3B Thanks to ev= eryone for their wealth of suggestions. I already had my students playing = with turtle. And I had asked them to alphabetize a string (without having = previously revealed the sorted() function).
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>=3B So far=2C = I have taken up the suggestion of the number-guessing game. One of my stud= ents has a working version. The logic is a bit clumsy=2C but it's a fine f= irst attempt.
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>=3B I will also take up the Twenty Questions= idea. My son and I played that game a lot over the years=2C to pass the t= ime on long car rides. And it would be a great way to introduce the binary= tree data structure.
>=3B
>=3B Another project I thought of was= a Pig Latin translator. (But do kids today even know what Pig Latin is? = Am I showing my age?)
>=3B
>=3B Concerning more advanced=2C real= -time=2C game-oriented graphics=2C I am trying to figure out how to build P= yGame on top of Python3.x. Supposedly it is possible. I just haven't figu= red out how. It's 2013: I refuse to complicate my students' programming ed= ucation with Python 2.x.
>=3B
>=3B I used wxPython happily for y= ears=2C and I think that its graphical capabilities would probably be up to= the task of a simple 2D game. Unfortunately=2C it has the same problem as= PyGame=2C at least for now. The Py3-compatible version of wxPython=2C to = be known as Phoenix=2C is still under development.
>=3B
>=3B I'l= l keep Unity=2C Panda3D=2C and Blender in mind for later. Again=2C one of = my main concerns will be Python 3.x compatibility.
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