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  Important features for editors cutems93 <ms2597@cornell.edu> - 2013-07-04 00:32 -0700
    Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 10:59 +0300
      Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 04:34 -0400
        Re: Important features for editors Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 12:14 +0300
          Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 20:03 +1000
          Re: Important features for editors Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 12:01 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:48 +0000
          Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 14:33 +0100
            Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Γκρ33κ <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 16:36 +0300
              Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-04 07:03 -0700
            Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 07:02 -0700
              Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 16:35 +0100
              Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-04 15:46 +0000
          Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-04 18:40 +0000
            Re: Important features for editors Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-04 21:52 +0300
              Re: Important features for editors Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 07:59 +1000
              Re: Important features for editors Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:59 -0400
              Re: Important features for editors Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-07-05 03:25 -0400
              Re: Important features for editors Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-05 14:11 +0000
      Re: Important features for editors Νίκος Gr33k <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-07-05 10:41 +0300
        Re: Important features for editors feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-07-05 01:28 -0700
    Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 05:02 -0400
    Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 08:22 -0500
    Re: Important features for editors MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-07-04 15:24 +0100
      Re: Important features for editors rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-07-04 08:56 -0700
        Re: Important features for editors Steve Simmons <square.steve@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 17:14 +0100
    Re: Important features for editors William Ray Wing <wrw@mac.com> - 2013-07-04 09:42 -0400
    Re: Important features for editors Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-07-04 16:03 -0500
    Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 01:38 +0100
      Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-04 21:50 -0400
        Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-05 12:59 +1000
    Re: Important features for editors Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-07-04 21:15 -0400
    Fwd: Important features for editors Göktuğ Kayaalp <goktug.kayaalp@gmail.com> - 2013-07-04 11:07 +0300
      Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 05:12 -0700
        Re: Important features for editors Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2013-07-06 09:06 +1000
        Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 08:43 +0530
          Re: Important features for editors Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-07-05 23:25 -0400
            Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 05:35 +0100
              Re: Important features for editors rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-05 22:19 -0700
                Re: Important features for editors Joshua Landau <joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 07:19 +0100
        Re: Important features for editors Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-07-06 13:39 +0530
        Re: Important features for editors "Eric S. Johansson" <esj@harvee.org> - 2013-07-06 02:52 -0400
    Re: Important features for editors jussij@zeusedit.com - 2013-07-07 23:16 -0700
      Re: Important features for editors Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-07-08 06:37 +0000
        Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 05:21 -0500
        Re: Important features for editors Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> - 2013-07-08 19:54 +0530
        Re: Important features for editors Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2013-07-08 13:03 -0500

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#49821 — Important features for editors

I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each of them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features do you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?

Thanks!
Min

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#49823

Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
> I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each of them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features do you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?
>
> Thanks!
> Min
>
Download Sublime Text v3

Is a great editor

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#49826

On 07/04/2013 03:59 AM, Νίκος wrote:
> Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
>> I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each of
>> them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which
>> features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features do
>> you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Min
>>
> Download Sublime Text v3
>
> Is a great editor
>

When possible, it's polite to supply a link to the page where it's 
described or can be downloaded.  In this case,

http://www.sublimetext.com/

It looks pretty good on the web page.  The main negatives I can see are:
     It costs $70 per user
     It can only be purchased with Paypal, which I won't use.
     It's available for OS/X, Linux and Windows, with a single purchase
     The eval/demo is not time-limited (currently)

The positives
     It can be customized, apparently in Python
     The simple customizations are specified by JSON files
     Current download is version 2, but there's a version 3 beta, and if 
you buy now, you won't have an upgrade fee.

......

Note that the OP didn't ask which is a good editor, but which features 
make a good editor.  I'll post a response to that in a little while.


-- 
DaveA

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#49830

Στις 4/7/2013 11:34 πμ, ο/η Dave Angel έγραψε:
> On 07/04/2013 03:59 AM, Νίκος wrote:
>> Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
>>> I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each of
>>> them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which
>>> features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features do
>>> you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Min
>>>
>> Download Sublime Text v3
>>
>> Is a great editor
>>
>
> When possible, it's polite to supply a link to the page where it's
> described or can be downloaded.  In this case,
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/
>
> It looks pretty good on the web page.  The main negatives I can see are:
>      It costs $70 per user
>      It can only be purchased with Paypal, which I won't use.
>      It's available for OS/X, Linux and Windows, with a single purchase
>      The eval/demo is not time-limited (currently)
>
> The positives
>      It can be customized, apparently in Python
>      The simple customizations are specified by JSON files
>      Current download is version 2, but there's a version 3 beta, and if
> you buy now, you won't have an upgrade fee.
>
> ......
>
> Note that the OP didn't ask which is a good editor, but which features
> make a good editor.  I'll post a response to that in a little while.
>
>
If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without 
buying it.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#49832

On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Νίκος <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
> I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying
> it.

Considering that there are plenty of free text editors around, I don't
see any reason to steal one. If you want a pay-for editor, pay for it.
If you don't want to pay, use emacs or SciTE or nano or something.

ChrisA

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#49840

On 2013-07-04 10:14, Νίκος wrote:

> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
> I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.

Please do not use this forum to make such offers.

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco

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#49878

On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 12:01:26 +0100, Robert Kern wrote:

> On 2013-07-04 10:14, Νίκος wrote:
> 
>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.
> 
> Please do not use this forum to make such offers.


Thank you Robert.



-- 
Steven

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#49859

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"Νίκος" <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:

>Στις 4/7/2013 11:34 πμ, ο/η Dave Angel έγραψε:
>> On 07/04/2013 03:59 AM, Νίκος wrote:
>>> Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
>>>> I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each
>of
>>>> them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which
>>>> features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features
>do
>>>> you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Min
>>>>
>>> Download Sublime Text v3
>>>
>>> Is a great editor
>>>
>>
>> When possible, it's polite to supply a link to the page where it's
>> described or can be downloaded.  In this case,
>>
>> http://www.sublimetext.com/
>>
>> It looks pretty good on the web page.  The main negatives I can see
>are:
>>      It costs $70 per user
>>      It can only be purchased with Paypal, which I won't use.
>>      It's available for OS/X, Linux and Windows, with a single
>purchase
>>      The eval/demo is not time-limited (currently)
>>
>> The positives
>>      It can be customized, apparently in Python
>>      The simple customizations are specified by JSON files
>>      Current download is version 2, but there's a version 3 beta, and
>if
>> you buy now, you won't have an upgrade fee.
>>
>> ......
>>
>> Note that the OP didn't ask which is a good editor, but which
>features
>> make a good editor.  I'll post a response to that in a little while.
>>
>>
>If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
>I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without 
>buying it.
>
>-- 
>What is now proved was at first only imagined!
>-- 
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post. 

Sent from a Galaxy far far away

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#49863

Στις 4/7/2013 4:33 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε:
> "Νίκος" <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>
>     Στις 4/7/2013 11:34 πμ, ο/η Dave Angel έγραψε:
>
>         On 07/04/2013 03:59 AM, Νίκος wrote:
>
>             Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
>
>                 I am researching on editors for my own reference. I
>                 found that each of
>                 them has some features that other don't, but I am not
>                 sure which
>                 features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor.
>                 What features do
>                 you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts?
>                 Extensions?
>
>                 Thanks!
>                 Min
>
>
>             Download Sublime Text v3
>
>             Is a great editor
>
>
>
>         When possible, it's polite to supply a link to the page where it's
>         described or can be downloaded. In this case,
>
>         http://www.sublimetext.com/
>
>         It looks pretty good on the web page. The main negatives I can
>         see are:
>         It costs $70 per user
>         It can only be purchased with Paypal, which I won't use.
>         It's available for OS/X, Linux and Windows, with a single purchase
>         The eval/demo is not time-limited (currently)
>
>         The positives
>         It can be customized, apparently in Python
>         The simple customizations are specified by JSON files
>         Current download is version 2, but there's a version 3 beta, and if
>         you buy now, you won't have an upgrade fee.
>
>         ......
>
>         Note that the OP didn't ask which is a good editor, but which
>         features
>         make a good editor. I'll post a response to that in a little while.
>
>
>
>     If you
>     guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
>     I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without
>     buying it.
>
>
> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered
> to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A
> PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post.
>
> Sent from a Galaxy far far away

Just wanted to help people that might wanted it, thats all, its a great 
editor, but i wont post in public again such propositions.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#49865

Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013 15:36:02 UTC+2 schrieb Νίκος Γκρ33κ:
> Στις 4/7/2013 4:33 μμ, ο/η Steve Simmons έγραψε:
>> "Νίκος" <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>     Στις 4/7/2013 11:34 πμ, ο/η Dave Angel έγραψε:
>>>>         On 07/04/2013 03:59 AM, Νίκος wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>             Download Sublime Text v3
>>>>>             Is a great editor
>>>> ...
>>>>        It looks pretty good on the web page. The main negatives I can
>>>>        see are:
>>>>        It costs $70 per user
>>>>        It can only be purchased with Paypal, which I won't use.
>>>> ...
>>>     If you
>>>     guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it.
>>>     I know its illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without
>>>     buying it.
>>
>> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered
>> to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A
>> PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post.
>> ...
> Just wanted to help people that might wanted it, thats all, its a great 
> editor, but i wont post in public again such propositions.

Ahh, I see. Committing crimes is O.K. as long as
    1. I think I help other with it and
    2. I do not talk about it.

Yep. That's a great attitude towards life.

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#49864

On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote:
> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered to 
> commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A PUBLIC 
> FORUM. Please think before you post. 

For the record Steve, let me say, I find Robert Kern's objection barely sufficient.

And yours less than that.

Note that you are not objecting to the crime but to the public expression of it.
Just look at your objection from the angle of a police officer, and you will see that it can certainly be construed as abetment/collusion (or whatever is the legalistic jargon. Obviously IANAL)

For the sake of covering my own arse let me say:
1. I have earlier described Nikos as a petty-criminal and consider myself justified.
2. I have earlier described condoning him as collusion and I reiterate that claim.

And I add
3. The collective actions of this list will help determine further whether he climbs or descends the criminal ladder.

Beyond that I reiterate what I said earlier in this thread: These discussions  'in-band' are counter-productive.

Setting up something like an invite-only yahoo or google group or some such to discuss this is free and takes 5 minutes.

I would have offered to do it but some people like Joshua Landau seem to think I am interested in world (aka Python-list) domination so not offering.
I was actually going to suggest that Steven d'Aprano do it. However before I could do that, he said (in CoC thread) that policing is not possible. Saddens me...

So I am suggesting you do it.

If I am invited I will contribute my 2c. If not, no objection: I dont consider myself a very important member of this list.

And yes: I hope you will consider rewording your objection, if not anything to cover your own you-know-what-where!!

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#49875

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rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote:
>> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just
>offered to 
>> commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A
>PUBLIC 
>> FORUM. Please think before you post. 
>
>For the record Steve, let me say, I find Robert Kern's objection barely
>sufficient.
>
>And yours less than that.
>
>Note that you are not objecting to the crime but to the public
>expression of it.
>Just look at your objection from the angle of a police officer, and you
>will see that it can certainly be construed as abetment/collusion (or
>whatever is the legalistic jargon. Obviously IANAL)
>
>For the sake of covering my own arse let me say:
>1. I have earlier described Nikos as a petty-criminal and consider
>myself justified.
>2. I have earlier described condoning him as collusion and I reiterate
>that claim.
>
>And I add
>3. The collective actions of this list will help determine further
>whether he climbs or descends the criminal ladder.
>
>Beyond that I reiterate what I said earlier in this thread: These
>discussions  'in-band' are counter-productive.
>
>Setting up something like an invite-only yahoo or google group or some
>such to discuss this is free and takes 5 minutes.
>
>I would have offered to do it but some people like Joshua Landau seem
>to think I am interested in world (aka Python-list) domination so not
>offering.
>I was actually going to suggest that Steven d'Aprano do it. However
>before I could do that, he said (in CoC thread) that policing is not
>possible. Saddens me...
>
>So I am suggesting you do it.
>
>If I am invited I will contribute my 2c. If not, no objection: I dont
>consider myself a very important member of this list.
>
>And yes: I hope you will consider rewording your objection, if not
>anything to cover your own you-know-what-where!!
>-- 
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Rusi,
Frankly, I don't give a tinkers cuss whether Nicos gets a visit from the police, FAST or the Greek secret service.   Like too many others, I gave him some advice and within 24 hours he has demonstrated that he didn't see any value in that advice.  Fair enough, it's not my problem. 
For my part, I have pointed out the folly of his ways and now reiterated, maybe too politely, that he has let himself down again.  Robert Kern had already given him a blunt response that such communication is unwelcome and I felt no need to reinforce it. 
If the police or any other authority are 'on my trail' they are welcome to visit my house where they will find absolutely no trace of any kind of crime (unless they check how badly I've ignored the need to redecorate). And just for the record, the lack of evidence of crime will not be because I covered it up really well but because "there ain't none guv".
I absolutely agree that the ongoing debate about Nicos' behaviour and the finer points of how various members of this list have reacted has become more than a little tiresome and it is high time it moved to another medium.  However, with no guidelines in place and no sanctions available, any discussion - on or off list - had precious little value. I still think the CoC idea has some merit but with just a few notable exceptions the response has been pretty lukewarm. Likewise,  I don't contribute much to this list - as a newcomer to python I don't have to much to offer - but I mostly enjoy being a small part of it and I would be happy to make a contribution to the CoC if I felt that the end result would be both useful and welcomed. 

Steve


Sent from a Galaxy far far away

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#49876

On Thu, 04 Jul 2013 07:02:26 -0700, rusi wrote:

> On Thursday, July 4, 2013 7:03:19 PM UTC+5:30, Steve Simmons wrote:
>> Boy oh boy! You really are a slow learner Nicos. You have just offered
>> to commit a crime and to include dozens of others in that crime ON A
>> PUBLIC FORUM. Please think before you post.
> 
> For the record Steve, let me say, I find Robert Kern's objection barely
> sufficient.
> 
> And yours less than that.
> 
> Note that you are not objecting to the crime 

Which crime is that? Presumably you mean an actual criminal felony, not a 
mere civil offence. Under which jurisdiction?


> but to the public
> expression of it. Just look at your objection from the angle of a police
> officer, and you will see that it can certainly be construed as
> abetment/collusion 

If piracy is a crime, and not just a civil offence, then surely so is 
libel. You have just accused Steve Simmons of collusion in a felony, 
based on absolutely no evidence at all. That's as clear a case of libel 
as I've ever seen. Although I'm not sure that the damages should be 
terribly high -- there's little evidence that anyone treats your 
ridiculously exaggerated claims about other people's supposed crimes as 
anything but hot air.

But, putting damages aside, according to what passes for the reasoning 
that you have demonstrated here, your committing libel would make you 
equally a "petty criminal" as Nikos.


Speaking of petty, this whole witch-hunt is getting ridiculous. Don't you 
have something more productive to do? Accusing people of colluding in 
crimes because they fail to be sufficiently zealous in "objecting to the 
crime" is nuts.


-- 
Steven

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#49896

On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>
> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.

A new low.  Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.

-- 
Grant

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#49897

Στις 4/7/2013 9:40 μμ, ο/η Grant Edwards έγραψε:
> On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.
>
> A new low.  Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.

Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and 
torrents websites.

What a hypocritism.....my intensions was to help the OP.


-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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#49903

On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> Στις 4/7/2013 9:40 μμ, ο/η Grant Edwards έγραψε:
>
>> On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
>>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.
>>
>>
>> A new low.  Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.
>
>
> Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and
> torrents websites.
>
> What a hypocritism.....my intensions was to help the OP.

Even if some of us *have* violated license agreements (which you
shouldn't assume is the case - most of us here are happily using free
software), it's still something that you shouldn't advocate in public.
Would you walk into a crowded room and start hawking a Kryptonite gun
("guaranteed to kill Superman, then you can go rob all the banks you
like") regardless of who's listening? No, you sell it quietly on the
black market. You certainly don't say "Hey, you guys have robbed banks
before... haven't you?", because that's certainly not going to be true
of everyone, and even if it is, it doesn't change what you've just
offered.

ChrisA

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#49904

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On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:

> Στις 4/7/2013 9:40 μμ, ο/η Grant Edwards έγραψε:
>
>  On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
>>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.
>>>
>>
>> A new low.  Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.
>>
>
> Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and
> torrents websites.
>
> What a hypocritism.....my intensions was to help the OP.


No, I don't.  Ever.  And I imagine many others on this list are the same
way.  If I don't want to pay asking price for a product, I won't use it.
 Period.  There's an open source solution to almost everything.  Learn to
use that instead.

Since many people on this list are in the business of making software, I'd
be willing to bet you are in the minority here. (The rather despised
minority, based on previous comments).  Even people that strongly believe
all software should be free would avoid Sublime Text (or start an inspired
open source project), not crack it.  Example: look at the history of git.

What you are doing (and offering to help others do in a public forum)
damages the very product you claim to like.  Commercial software is
maintained and improved by the funding provided by product sales, which you
deprive them of by your behavior.

The original offer was misguided at best, but this attempted defense that
casts everyone else down to your level (and avoids admitting wrongdoing) is
reprehensible.

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#49937

On 7/4/2013 2:52 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>
> Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and
> torrents websites.

Morality aside, why would I? Today I bought 8 games on GOG.com for about 
$22 - drm and virus free and easy download and install. If I get 10 
hours of fun from 2 of them, I'll be happy. This is not to mention free 
Python and LibreOffice as my primary work programs - suppported by hg, 
TortoiseHg, 7zip, and others.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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#49985

On 2013-07-04, Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
> ???????? 4/7/2013 9:40 ????, ??/?? Grant Edwards ????????????:
>> On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
>>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.
>>
>> A new low.  Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.
>
> Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and 
> torrents websites.

No, not that I can recall.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! In Newark the
                                  at               laundromats are open 24
                              gmail.com            hours a day!

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#49941

Στις 4/7/2013 10:59 πμ, ο/η Νίκος έγραψε:
> Στις 4/7/2013 10:32 πμ, ο/η cutems93 έγραψε:
>> I am researching on editors for my own reference. I found that each of
>> them has some features that other don't, but I am not sure which
>> features are significant/necessary for a GOOD editor. What features do
>> you a good editor should have? Keyboard shortcuts? Extensions?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Min
>>
> Download Sublime Text v3
>
> Is a great editor
>

The only thing missing from this great editor is the ability to upload 
your python scripts to a remote web server.

They should embed a plugin  for that like Notepad's NPPFtp plugin.

Other that that its all complete, and it has help built-in system to 
help you with the syntax of the commands as you write them.

-- 
What is now proved was at first only imagined!

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