Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder7.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.044 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'example:': 0.03; 'charset:iso-8859-7': 0.04; 'inspired': 0.05; 'damages': 0.07; 'subject:features': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'attempted': 0.16; 'cc:name:python list': 0.16; 'deprive': 0.16; 'git.': 0.16; 'low.': 0.16; 'minority,': 0.16; 'op.': 0.16; "others'": 0.16; 'funding': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'instead.': 0.24; '\xa0if': 0.24; 'guys': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'downloaded': 0.26; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'patch': 0.29; 'strongly': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; 'software,': 0.31; 'sales,': 0.31; 'websites.': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "he's": 0.36; 'maintained': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'level': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'previous': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'improved': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'offer': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'offering': 0.63; 'buying': 0.65; 'subject:Important': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'price': 0.69; 'business': 0.70; 'commercial': 0.71; 'jul': 0.74; 'avoids': 0.84; 'ever.': 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'sublime': 0.84; 'edwards': 0.91; 'imagine': 0.93; 'period.': 0.95; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Z2enyqz9RqULqLqocI3d5lTy1R9kQ22tRMm/fP1ZILY=; b=0ddi/szDlj7B5lj4Cbdif5tReOY27cXL7byKS+ZYH6FMTws1CdzvlsO/1lV6uRmeXl xz+Kb9l1BYTmyajYILFezYSipJNOXFCi/FU5pHYcgXxIg+1vjdw1mLM1meUtYB6Gy41k BNlHZ4Xs+OoJ7rXXRULmGPj/mUK4SeNF002Ex/M15ZXq8yZKRIcf7zfjRpasioIBsFyz yGIhXxQdu5wZpHtPcyGlQDjNPVPyBaBqe8muCeY7FUKvnrmfd6hxO1nLOtAqeKkZv4js dtmEd+kYkdQcZLSXXvmVVhe12Tx0ikpYxbWrQF+E0m1oUJdj9a3u+QL3OylWi58wQlW3 9wlA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.128.36 with SMTP id nl4mr3552004igb.38.1372975196875; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <0eab9d68-da63-41b0-bad4-d7b4457128ce@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:59:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Important features for editors From: Jason Swails To: Ferrous Cranus Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122a2aae532f004e0b6b260 Cc: python list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 101 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1372975200 news.xs4all.nl 15952 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46033 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49904 --089e0122a2aae532f004e0b6b260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Ferrous Cranus wrote: > =D3=F4=E9=F2 4/7/2013 9:40 =EC=EC, =EF/=E7 Grant Edwards =DD=E3=F1=E1=F8= =E5: > > On 2013-07-04, ?????????? wrote: >> >>> >>> If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its >>> illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it. >>> >> >> A new low. Now he's offering to help people steal others' work. >> > > Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and > torrents websites. > > What a hypocritism.....my intensions was to help the OP. No, I don't. Ever. And I imagine many others on this list are the same way. If I don't want to pay asking price for a product, I won't use it. Period. There's an open source solution to almost everything. Learn to use that instead. Since many people on this list are in the business of making software, I'd be willing to bet you are in the minority here. (The rather despised minority, based on previous comments). Even people that strongly believe all software should be free would avoid Sublime Text (or start an inspired open source project), not crack it. Example: look at the history of git. What you are doing (and offering to help others do in a public forum) damages the very product you claim to like. Commercial software is maintained and improved by the funding provided by product sales, which you deprive them of by your behavior. The original offer was misguided at best, but this attempted defense that casts everyone else down to your level (and avoids admitting wrongdoing) is reprehensible. --089e0122a2aae532f004e0b6b260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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On Thu, = Jul 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr>= wrote:
=D3=F4=E9=F2 4/7/2013 9:40 =EC=EC, =EF/=E7 G= rant Edwards =DD=E3=F1=E1=F8=E5:

On 2013-07-04, ?????????? <nikos@superhost.gr> wrote:

If you guys want to use it i can send you a patch for it. I know its
illegal thing to say but it will help you use it without buying it.

A new low. =A0Now he's offering to help people steal others' work.<= br>

Like you never downloaded serials/keygens/patch/cracks for warez and torren= ts websites.

What a hypocritism.....my intensions was to help the OP.
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No, I don&= #39;t. =A0Ever. =A0And I imagine many others on this list are the same way.= =A0If I don't want to pay asking price for a product, I won't use = it. =A0Period. =A0There's an open source solution to almost everything.= =A0Learn to use that instead.

Since many people on this li= st are in the business of making software, I'd be willing to bet you ar= e in the minority here. (The rather despised minority, based on previous co= mments). =A0Even people that strongly believe all software should be free w= ould avoid Sublime Text (or start an inspired open source project), not cra= ck it. =A0Example: look at the history of git.

What you are doing (and offe= ring to help others do in a public forum) damages the very product you clai= m to like. =A0Commercial software is maintained and improved by the funding= provided by product sales, which you deprive them of by your behavior.

The original offer was misgu= ided at best, but this attempted defense that casts everyone else down to y= our level (and avoids admitting wrongdoing) is reprehensible.
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