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  Python Game Development? letsplaysforu@gmail.com - 2013-06-07 08:53 -0700
    Re: Python Game Development? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 10:21 -0600
      Re: Python Game Development? Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 09:28 -0700
        Re: Python Game Development? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 10:35 -0600
        Re: Python Game Development? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 10:36 -0600
        Re: Python Game Development? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-07 16:39 +0000
        Re: Python Game Development? Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2013-06-07 22:04 -0700
    Re: Python Game Development? Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 10:53 -0700
      Re: Python Game Development? Matty Sarro <msarro@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 14:00 -0400
      Re: Python Game Development? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 12:42 -0600
    Re: Python Game Development? Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2013-06-07 14:50 -0700
    Re: Python Game Development? Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-06-08 07:30 +0100
    Re: Python Game Development? Jan Riechers <janpeterr@freenet.de> - 2013-06-08 14:52 +0300
    Re: Python Game Development? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-06-08 15:17 +0100
      Re: Python Game Development? Fábio Santos <fabiosantosart@gmail.com> - 2013-06-08 17:01 +0100
    Re: Python Game Development? alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-11 19:27 -0700

#47333 — Python Game Development?

I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:

• Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
• PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
• Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
• PyCap - Can't find any documentation
• Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
• PyOpenGL - Overkill

Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!

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#47334

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:53 AM,  <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
>
> • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
> • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> • PyOpenGL - Overkill
>
> Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!

Pygame is still quite commonly used, and the most recent commit was in
April, so I think it's too early to pronounce it dead (although
pgreloaded, which at one point was intended to be a successor to
pygame, is looking a bit dormant now).

A lot of folks also like pyglet, but I've never used it myself.  I
suspect it might also be overkill for you.

And yes, it's definitely possible to make games in Python.  Go to
pyweek.org and check out many of the awesome games that have been
developed in Python in only one week.

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#47335

On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:21:36 PM UTC+1, Ian wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:53 AM,  <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
> 
> >
> 
> > • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> 
> > • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
> 
> > • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> 
> > • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> 
> > • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> 
> > • PyOpenGL - Overkill
> 
> >
> 
> > Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> Pygame is still quite commonly used, and the most recent commit was in
> 
> April, so I think it's too early to pronounce it dead (although
> 
> pgreloaded, which at one point was intended to be a successor to
> 
> pygame, is looking a bit dormant now).
> 
> 
> 
> A lot of folks also like pyglet, but I've never used it myself.  I
> 
> suspect it might also be overkill for you.
> 
> 
> 
> And yes, it's definitely possible to make games in Python.  Go to
> 
> pyweek.org and check out many of the awesome games that have been
> 
> developed in Python in only one week.

Do you know of any tutorial for PyGame? Preferably a video tutorial but any tutorial at all is fine! I can't seem to find any, even on pygame.org!!!

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#47337

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you know of any tutorial for PyGame? Preferably a video tutorial but any tutorial at all is fine! I can't seem to find any, even on pygame.org!!!

I'd start here: http://www.pygame.org/wiki/tutorials

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#47338

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you know of any tutorial for PyGame? Preferably a video tutorial but any tutorial at all is fine! I can't seem to find any, even on pygame.org!!!
>
> I'd start here: http://www.pygame.org/wiki/tutorials

Also the section under the "Tutorials" heading at http://www.pygame.org/docs/

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#47340

On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:28:09 -0700, Eam onn wrote:

> Do you know of any tutorial for PyGame? Preferably a video tutorial but
> any tutorial at all is fine! I can't seem to find any, even on
> pygame.org!!!

https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=pygame+tutorial


-- 
Steven

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#47367

On 06/07/2013 09:28 AM, Eam onn wrote:
> On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:21:36 PM UTC+1, Ian wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:53 AM,  <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

> Do you know of any tutorial for PyGame? Preferably a video tutorial but any tutorial at all is fine! I can't seem to find any, even on pygame.org!!!
>

Check out:

http://inventwithpython.com/pygame/

for the book "Making Games with Python & Pygame"

You can buy it, read it on-line for free, or download the pdf or eReader versions for free.

(Totally irrelevant side-comment:  PyGame and all the games from this book come pre-loaded on 
the Raspberry Pi.)

      -=- Larry -=-

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#47342

On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:53:03 PM UTC+1, Eam onn wrote:
> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
> 
> 
> 
> • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> 
> • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
> 
> • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> 
> • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> 
> • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> 
> • PyOpenGL - Overkill
> 
> 
> 
> Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!

Pygame isn't too good. You still need a lot of other libraries from what I understand(like for physics). Is there any alternative for 2D?

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#47343

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You could make a fantastic turtle based game with pyturtle!


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:53:03 PM UTC+1, Eam onn wrote:
> > I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any
> libraries for this? I know of:
> >
> >
> >
> > • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> >
> > • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want
> multi-platform)
> >
> > • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> >
> > • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> >
> > • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> >
> > • PyOpenGL - Overkill
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games
> mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand
> that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have
> heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!
>
> Pygame isn't too good. You still need a lot of other libraries from what I
> understand(like for physics). Is there any alternative for 2D?
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

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#47346

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Eam onn <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pygame isn't too good. You still need a lot of other libraries from what I understand(like for physics). Is there any alternative for 2D?

I don't know of any Python libraries that provide both a rendering
engine and a physics engine.

I'm not sure why you say pyame "isn't too good".  A library that only
does one thing shouldn't be considered a bad library if it does it
well.  I hear that pygame doesn't scale very well to large games, and
it certainly wouldn't be my first choice for a 3D game, but I've never
had any major issues with it myself.  There's a largish list of
alternative libraries that you might consider here:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonGameLibraries

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#47354

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On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, <letsplaysforu@gmail.com> wrote:

> I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming
> a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!
>

One of the Blizzard people told me that it's very common to program game
logic in Python, with the 3D stuff done in C wrapped up to be callable from
Python.

But I've since heard that Blizzard mostly uses Lua, from someone who
doesn't work at Blizzard.  Maybe Blizzard use both Python and Lua, or maybe
they changed, I don't know.

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#47368

On 07/06/13 16:53, letsplaysforu@gmail.com wrote:
> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
>
> • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
> • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> • PyOpenGL - Overkill
>
> Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!
>

You might also wish to consider Kivy (kivy.org).

Regards,
Ian F

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#47380

On 07.06.2013 18:53, letsplaysforu@gmail.com wrote:
> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
>
> • Pygame - As far as I know it's dead and has been for almost a year
> • PyOgre - Linux and Windows only(I do have those, but I want multi-platform)
> • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support
> • PyCap - Can't find any documentation
> • Panda3D - Dead since 2011 + overkill for what I need
> • PyOpenGL - Overkill
>
> Any help on what to do with this would be appreciated. I am making games mainly in Lua but I'd like to make one in Python for fun. I also understand that Python isn't exactly the *BEST* choice programming a game, but I have heard it is possible. Tell me if it's true. Thanks!
>

Hi,

I only have looked closer in pygame. But before asking for an general 
overview of possible gaming libraries, I would start to answer the 
question of what kind of game you want to make and what features do you 
really need.

For some space game for example it is most unlikely that you will face 
the requirement of having a bleeding edge physics engine. Especially if 
you make use of 2d objects versus 3d models of any type. I guess you can 
expand the latter to any extend here.

Also it is a common thing I might guess bravely, that the basics of game 
programming are done similar in all game engines.

- Setting up a game loop
- Calculation present and future ob objects
- Handling user input by using events
- Redraw the screen

And this is in pygame quite simply, but I also had trouble finding the 
right entrance to it, as you have to read a bit up on how components fit 
together in that library.

An example basic setup looks like (with classing), I remove my code and 
limited it to basic event/input handling and also the drawing of a 
screen object in which you can add images and stuff.

Sorry for the formatting, I copied from idle and formatted in my email 
client.

#----------------------------------------

class gameApp:
     def __init__(self):
         pygame.init()
         self.clock = pygame.time.Clock()

         self.screen = pygame.display.set_mode( (640, 480), 
DOUBLEBUF|SRCALPHA )
self.run()


def run(self):
         while not self.close_app:
             self.clock.tick(60)

             for event in pygame.event.get():
                 #print event

                 if event.type == KEYUP:
                     # Press tab for player info
                     if event.key == 9:
			pass # Do something in tab key

                 elif event.type == MOUSEBUTTONDOWN:
                     if event.button == 1:
			pass # Left click, mouse button is pressend

                 elif event.type == MOUSEMOTION:
		    mx = event.rel[0]
		    my = event.rel[1]
                     continue


                 elif event.type == QUIT:
                     self.close_app = True

             self.screen.fill( (0,0,0) )
		# Self interaction is a screen drawing object
             self.screen.blit(self.interactions, (0,0), 
special_flags=BLEND_RGBA_ADD)

             pygame.display.flip()



         pygame.quit()


if __name__ == '__main__':
     import pygame
     from pygame.locals import *
     gameApp()


#----------------------------------------


Regards
Jan

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#47381

On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:53:03 -0700, letsplaysforu wrote:

> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any
> libraries for this? I know of: 

[snip]

There's also Pyglet.

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#47386

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> On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:53:03 -0700, letsplaysforu wrote:
>
> > I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any
> > libraries for this? I know of:
It wasn't your question, but I was happy to find out that box2d exists for
python.

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#47734

On Jun 8, 1:53 am, letsplaysf...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was planning on making a small 2D game in Python. Are there any libraries for this? I know of:
> • Cocos2D - Won't install and cant find any support

Cocos2D is what I tend to recommend. What issues did you have with
installing it?

For support, you can try their Google group, which is active:
https://groups.google.com/group/cocos-discuss

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