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| Started by | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2013-05-31 22:30 -0700 |
| Last post | 2013-06-04 14:58 +0300 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 126 — 21 participants |
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Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-05-31 22:30 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 15:38 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 00:49 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 17:56 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 01:31 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Alain Ketterlin <alain@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> - 2013-06-01 11:03 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-01 02:19 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Paul Kölle <paul@subsignal.org> - 2013-06-02 13:51 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2013-06-03 18:20 +0300
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 01:13 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 17:23 -0600
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 02:33 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 22:45 -0600
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 17:51 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 03:12 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 03:17 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Benjamin Schollnick <benjamin@schollnick.net> - 2013-06-04 06:21 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 03:56 -0700
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 14:04 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 04:09 -0700
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 14:27 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 04:36 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 04:38 -0700
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 14:42 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 04:48 -0700
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 15:11 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 05:54 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-06-04 20:41 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 05:57 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 23:10 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 06:17 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 00:33 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 07:40 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-04 15:49 +0100
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 17:06 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 01:11 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 11:29 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 10:02 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 03:09 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 10:12 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 08:12 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 20:55 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:34 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:40 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:59 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 22:11 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 22:23 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 22:58 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 17:01 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-04 21:35 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 18:09 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 01:26 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 18:41 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 01:53 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 01:58 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:05 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:14 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:27 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:32 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:41 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:46 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:49 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 03:32 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-05 14:23 +0100
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-06-06 03:57 +0000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 21:08 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 11:04 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:19 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:31 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:37 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:48 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:52 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 20:12 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 03:30 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 12:37 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-06-05 12:39 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 04:07 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 04:11 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 13:14 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 04:19 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 13:37 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 02:33 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:02 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:16 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:29 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:47 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:08 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:16 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:22 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:34 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:46 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:53 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Zero Piraeus <schesis@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 14:52 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:58 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 05:13 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 12:18 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 11:55 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 12:03 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 05:03 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 15:29 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 04:37 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-06-05 19:19 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-06-05 17:57 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-06-05 21:02 -0500
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-06-06 11:03 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 02:24 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 12:35 -0400
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:07 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-05 14:25 +0100
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 19:19 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 11:29 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:33 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 11:55 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 03:21 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2013-06-05 12:33 +0200
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 01:59 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 02:06 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-06-05 14:16 +0100
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 07:35 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Serhiy Storchaka <storchaka@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 17:46 +0300
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 07:56 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 02:37 +1000
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-06-05 10:05 -0700
Re: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-06-06 03:19 +1000
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 16:13 +0300
RE: Apache and suexec issue that wont let me run my python script Carlos Nepomuceno <carlosnepomuceno@outlook.com> - 2013-06-04 14:58 +0300
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 02:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5f463e95-aaff-430a-baca-b12a7cde02a5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47052 |
And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: On Jun 5, 7:06 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > There would have been no violation if he just look into en encoding issue and not meddled with my customers mail and data. "Waaah, why didn't this stranger do my job for me for free? I'm so confused!" > Alex23, you are the *WORST* character i ever encountered in this list and forums in gernal. Hooray! You probably haven't noticed because you don't give a shit about any other problems here but your own, but I do help people on this list, when it's clear they actually want to learn and not just palm off their confusion onto other people. What I don't do is some lazy dickwad's work for him; I get enough of that from my project managers. I don't suffer fools gladly, and boy, are you ever a fool. > Idiot and ignorant too not knowing that ~/www is a symlink to ~/public_html and pretending to help. Firstly, that's why I _asked_ if they were the same. Secondly, excuse me if I don't set up my web servers using shitty obsolete mechanisms like CGI. And given I'm not the one who's handing out root access to his commercial server like it's candy, you really shouldn't be throwing terms like "ignorant" around. > Fuck you too and sod off. You're such a charmer What a fucker...
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 02:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <76db4468-4b5e-487a-858b-eb77789e979f@g5g2000pbp.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47053 |
On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't think that's a concept you're overly familiar with given your posting history.
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 03:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <09415a13-43ee-4fec-80f9-1261d3aa8485@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47056 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:49:13 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: > On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: > > > > Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't > > think that's a concept you're overly familiar with given your posting > > history. You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. Now sod off.
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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 14:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2729.1370438576.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47062 |
On 05/06/2013 11:32, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:49:13 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης alex23 έγραψε: >> On Jun 5, 7:46 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> And here us Alex23 private mail that sent out to me: >> >> >> >> Which I spared the list from because it was off-topic, but I don't >> >> think that's a concept you're overly familiar with given your posting >> >> history. > > You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. > Now sod off. > Never in the field of the internet has so much been owed to so many by so few. -- "Steve is going for the pink ball - and for those of you who are watching in black and white, the pink is next to the green." Snooker commentator 'Whispering' Ted Lowe. Mark Lawrence
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| From | Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> |
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| Date | 2013-06-06 03:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <51b00894$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #47062 |
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:32:42 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: [...] > You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. Now > sod off. Νικόλαος, please stop trading insults with people who you feel have wronged you. If somebody gives you deliberately bad advice, that is one thing. Otherwise, please try to ignore their insults rather than throwing fuel on the fire by insulting back. But please also try to learn from them! Most of the criticisms given have been valid, even if put rudely. For example, this thread, and related threads, are ENORMOUS. I cannot keep track of all the issues. Please try not to make this thread unnecessarily complicated with rapid fire responses that don't help. * Please think before you reply. Does your reply *help* the conversation, or make it worse? * Please stop making multiple changes at once. It makes it hard to see what causes the breakage. * If you change something, and it breaks, undo the change, then experiment outside of your live system to try to understand and fix the issue. As for everyone else, please try to be polite and helpful, or don't reply at all. Thank you. -- Steven
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 21:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2027c764-6a03-47c5-acae-3a666e161722@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47185 |
Τη Πέμπτη, 6 Ιουνίου 2013 6:57:08 π.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Steven D'Aprano έγραψε: > On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:32:42 -0700, Νικόλαος Κούρας wrote: > > > > [...] > > > You spare it from the list because you wanted to bitch in private. Now > > > sod off. > > > > Νικόλαος, please stop trading insults with people who you feel have > > wronged you. > > > > If somebody gives you deliberately bad advice, that is one thing. > > Otherwise, please try to ignore their insults rather than throwing fuel > > on the fire by insulting back. > > > > But please also try to learn from them! Most of the criticisms given have > > been valid, even if put rudely. > > > > For example, this thread, and related threads, are ENORMOUS. I cannot > > keep track of all the issues. Please try not to make this thread > > unnecessarily complicated with rapid fire responses that don't help. > > > > * Please think before you reply. Does your reply *help* the > > conversation, or make it worse? > > > > * Please stop making multiple changes at once. It makes it hard to see > > what causes the breakage. > > > > * If you change something, and it breaks, undo the change, then > > experiment outside of your live system to try to understand and fix the > > issue. > > > > > > As for everyone else, please try to be polite and helpful, or don't reply > > at all. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > -- > > Steven Okey as, you ahve seen form yesterday night(Greek time) i have stopped answering to this thread. I have said what needed ot be heard.
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| From | Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 11:04 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2710.1370423500.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47036 |
Am 05.06.2013 10:53, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: > I ALSO HAVE GIVEN ROOT ACCESS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS LIST AND HE IN FACT TRIED TO HELP ME INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT YOU DID. AND FROM 2 OTHER PEOPLE AS SOME OTHER FORUMS TOO. You know what you're saying there? You've given (at least) four people you don't know at all (you know, on the internet nobody knows you're a dog and stuff) - and as such shouldn't trust them at all, either - free and full admission to a system that critical for you. That's like handing out keys to the front door of your home to any passer-by on the street who you feel like talking to - and then later wondering why your belongings are suddenly gone. Seeing how riled up you get about this, what Chris did is for the better. At least it seems that you won't be able to change your root password back, either, and as such you won't have root access anymore to your system for the time being, which makes your system and the internets a safer place for now. -- --- Heiko.
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 02:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c49345c2-7dd8-4b59-9f5c-c4e7ce7a3ea0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47042 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:04:15 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 10:53, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: > > > I ALSO HAVE GIVEN ROOT ACCESS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS LIST AND HE IN FACT TRIED TO HELP ME INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT YOU DID. AND FROM 2 OTHER PEOPLE AS SOME OTHER FORUMS TOO. > > > > You know what you're saying there? You've given (at least) four people > > you don't know at all (you know, on the internet nobody knows you're a > > dog and stuff) - and as such shouldn't trust them at all, either - free > > and full admission to a system that critical for you. That's like > > handing out keys to the front door of your home to any passer-by on the > > street who you feel like talking to - and then later wondering why your > > belongings are suddenly gone. > > > > Seeing how riled up you get about this, what Chris did is for the > > better. At least it seems that you won't be able to change your root > > password back, either, and as such you won't have root access anymore to > > your system for the time being, which makes your system and the > > internets a safer place for now. I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. Some dont. Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. As i said some people can actually be trusted.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 19:31 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2714.1370424700.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47044 |
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote: > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > Some dont. > Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. I've actually tried on MANY occasions to help you. I have put in a number of hours of volunteer time researching and posting for you, which I don't regret only because the list is of value to more people than just the one who asked the question. You are unhelpable. > And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. > And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. > > Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. > As i said some people can actually be trusted. So you'll casually give out your root password again, yet you think you are not naive? The next person you meet might actually do you some harm. You most definitely *are* a fool. ChrisA
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 02:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b748de83-782b-489f-8833-7b3fda1dd942@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47048 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 12:31:37 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. > > > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > > > Some dont. > > > Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. > > > > I've actually tried on MANY occasions to help you. I have put in a > > number of hours of volunteer time researching and posting for you, > > which I don't regret only because the list is of value to more people > > than just the one who asked the question. You are unhelpable. > > > > > And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. > > > And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. > > > > > > Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. > > > As i said some people can actually be trusted. > > > > So you'll casually give out your root password again, yet you think > > you are not naive? The next person you meet might actually do you some > > harm. > > > > You most definitely *are* a fool. TheRE is this saying that applis to you: A THIEF BELEIVES EVERYBODY STEALS. You do not trust people because you think all of them are likely to screw you, when its the other way around.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 19:48 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2716.1370425742.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47051 |
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> wrote: > TheRE is this saying that applis to you: > A THIEF BELEIVES EVERYBODY STEALS. > > You do not trust people because you think all of them are likely to screw you, when its the other way around. You really need to do a basic course in internet security. Why do we have SSL? Is it because everyone's honest and trustworthy? Why do you access your server using a password in the first place? I mean, if people are honest, wouldn't it be fine to just use TELNET and simply enter your name to get access? Please don't misunderstand me. If I hated you, thought you worthless, and/or was angry at you, I would not be trying to explain this; you would have been in my killfile weeks ago and I would not even be aware of your problems. I think you have the capacity to learn and improve, but you really need to put some effort into figuring out what you're doing. I dread to think what you're charging your clients for the shoddy service you're offering them. With ten clients, you're probably having to charge them the equivalent of $US50/year just for cpanel, on top of all your other costs. No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. ChrisA
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 02:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <da6e3250-c1f4-4a20-bf1b-d8bcbc32c9fb@lr16g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47055 |
On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the failings of an individual to an entire genetic or cultural collective, and it isn't a pretty one.
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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 20:12 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2718.1370427185.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47057 |
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: >> No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. > > This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the > joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the > failings of an individual to an entire genetic or cultural collective, > and it isn't a pretty one. Sorry. You're right, that was un-called-for. I retract that comment. My main point I still stand by, though. These people are paying good money for a service that probably seems fine, to them. It's probably seemed fine for several years, even. But underneath, the systems admin is constantly breaking stuff and then coming in a panic to an open forum, begging for help, and then giving root access to strangers in the hope that they'll magically fix everything. This is not the sort of service I would pay for, and this is why I do not regret the potential damage to Nikos's revenue. The complaint is equivalent to begging a bank not to put in security cameras, because bank robbers might get less income. ChrisA
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 03:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8ee3ad3f-22b3-4ad6-a334-3933ba0e31de@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47059 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 1:12:55 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Chris Angelico έγραψε: > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 5, 7:48 pm, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> No wonder the economy of Greece is in trouble. > > > > > > This isn't addressed just to Chris, as this isn't the first time the > > > joke has been made, but could we not? There's a term for applying the > > > failings of an individual to an entire genetic or cultural collective, > > > and it isn't a pretty one. > > > > Sorry. You're right, that was un-called-for. I retract that comment. > > > > My main point I still stand by, though. These people are paying good > > money for a service that probably seems fine, to them. It's probably > > seemed fine for several years, even. But underneath, the systems admin > > is constantly breaking stuff and then coming in a panic to an open > > forum, begging for help, and then giving root access to strangers in > > the hope that they'll magically fix everything. This is not the sort > > of service I would pay for, and this is why I do not regret the > > potential damage to Nikos's revenue. The complaint is equivalent to > > begging a bank not to put in security cameras, because bank robbers > > might get less income. I dont own e-shops websites that require credit cards to make transactions. I just host 10 peoples who happen to be my friends websites, most of them created by Joomla CMS. 50 euros they pay me for the year for my services and some of them the half. I barely make some money out of this which with your actions today might loose them too. I hope you are happy. What ever i try is expicitly under my user account for python issues and not system wide, so hell brakes loose. And even if it did, my company whos server i rent, would have been abel to fix that. What you did is unforgivable, you should have decalred that: "Nik, i actually dont want to help you with your damn enodnig issue, bur rather mess with your system to prove a point and i dont even regret if you loose some of your customers." Having said that, you could have been honest. At some point i will pay someone here to modify my templates and python scripts to use web frameworks. You and Heiko of course would be excluded from the programmer for hire list. Michael Torrie Steven D'aprano Lele Gaifax Cameron Simpson are possible candidates.
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| From | Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 12:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2720.1370428671.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47061 |
Am 05.06.2013 12:30, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: > You and Heiko of course would be excluded from the programmer for hire list. Guess what: I have a job. And I don't give a damn. -- --- Heiko.
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| From | Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 12:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2721.1370428837.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47044 |
Op 05-06-13 11:19, Νικόλαος Κούρας schreef: > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > Some dont. > Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. > And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. > And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. You believing so, is not enough. > Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. > As i said some people can actually be trusted. Yes you are naive and a fool. The existance of trustworthy people is not the issue. The issue is how do you protect your server from the untrustworthy ones. Chris has shown you that your method for the latter sucks, yet here you are publicly stating you will just proceed in the same way. Someone with malice in mind has only to win your trust here or elsewhere by faking he wants to help you and you seem willing to give them the root password to your server. On top of that you have made it public that this will likely work. That certainly makes you naive and a fool. -- Antoon Pardon
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 04:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8df8a9df-dbb9-4f35-a6a3-b45aa32a848b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47066 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 1:39:28 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Antoon Pardon έγραψε: > Op 05-06-13 11:19, οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ schreef: > > > I'am a perosn that eaisly trust other people to have ethics, especially python programmers who knows how difficult its to debug a script and have it working. > > > Some people can be trusted, and actually try to help. > > > Some dont. > > > Chris is na example of the latter. At least he didnt wipe the whoile system out. > > > And i do have access of my system 30 mins now. > > > And yes i will again root access to another person, which i beleive he can be trsuted and give me some friendly help. > > You believing so, is not enough. > > > Tha is all i have to say and i'm not naive or fool. > > > As i said some people can actually be trusted. > > Yes you are naive and a fool. The existance of trustworthy people is not > > the issue. The issue is how do you protect your server from the > > untrustworthy ones. > > > > Chris has shown you that your method for the latter sucks, yet here you > > are publicly stating you will just proceed in the same way. > > > > Someone with malice in mind has only to win your trust here or elsewhere > > by faking he wants to help you and you seem willing to give them the > > root password to your server. On top of that you have made it public > > that this will likely work. I will understand by his attitude in general if he is likely to help me or not. With Chris, being an expert and all, i was 60%-40% that he was likely to help me, but i was rather worrying if he would solve the filename encoding and suexec issues more that harming the server(whoch he did not) Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in from .au(why not really?), how can i tell what exactly did he do when he logged on to the server?
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| From | alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 04:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <773d7832-cbad-4caf-a62e-588478658b71@ua8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47067 |
On Jun 5, 9:07 pm, Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in from .au(why not really?) http://lmgtfy.com/?q=centos+clear+command+line+history You're welcome.
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| From | Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 13:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.2722.1370430879.3114.python-list@python.org> |
| In reply to | #47067 |
Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb Νικόλαος Κούρας: > Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in from .au(why not really?), how can i tell what exactly did he do when he logged on to the server? As root has full access to your system (i.e., can change file contents and system state at will), and you gave him root access: you can't. And he made sure to remove things such as .bash_history and the syslog contents, I guess. At least that's what I'd have done to prove a point. -- --- Heiko.
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| From | Νικόλαος Κούρας <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2013-06-05 04:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1496e27c-7870-48d2-afb0-1bf626e24b5f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #47070 |
Τη Τετάρτη, 5 Ιουνίου 2013 2:14:34 μ.μ. UTC+3, ο χρήστης Heiko Wundram έγραψε: > Am 05.06.2013 13:07, schrieb οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½ οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½οΏ½: > > >Btw, since history doesnt show me his history comamnds when he logged in > >from .au(why not really?), how can i tell what exactly did he do when he > >logged on to the server? > As root has full access to your system (i.e., can change file contents > and system state at will), and you gave him root access: you can't. And > he made sure to remove things such as .bash_history and the syslog > contents, I guess. At least that's what I'd have done to prove a point. I see. Thanks. Is there some logging utility i can use next time iam offering root access to someone(if i do it) or perhaps logging a normal's account activity?
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