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First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop

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First post2013-10-29 10:40 -0700
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  First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 10:40 -0700
    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 18:09 +0000
      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:23 -0700
        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 11:35 -0700
          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-29 19:24 +0000
            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:08 -0700
              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-29 13:11 -0700
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-29 20:37 +0000
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-30 01:44 +0000
              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-29 16:30 -0400
              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2013-10-29 20:32 +0000
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2013-10-30 11:53 +1300
              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-10-30 00:07 -0700
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 01:52 -0700
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:48 -0700
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 02:52 -0700
                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 10:00 +0000
                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:13 -0700
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 05:08 -0700
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0400
                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:42 -0700
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:08 -0700
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:11 -0700
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 03:19 -0700
                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:05 +1000
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:24 -0700
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 21:42 +1100
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:07 +0000
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Tim Roberts <timr@probo.com> - 2013-11-02 13:19 -0700
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-11-03 12:33 +0100
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:54 -0800
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-11-03 04:55 -0800
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:01 +0100
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-10-30 15:50 +0000
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:54 -0700
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 19:59 +0100
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 23:17 +1100
                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 13:42 +0100
                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 14:22 +0000
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 07:31 -0700
                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:09 +0000
                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:35 -0700
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:51 -0700
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:51 +0000
                            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:14 -0700
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:47 -0400
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 11:07 +1000
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 08:53 -0700
                            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Kushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran+python@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 22:00 +0530
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 09:45 -0700
                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 15:54 +0000
                            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 08:57 -0700
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:13 +0000
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-30 09:16 -0700
                                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:38 +0000
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 16:22 +0000
                                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:31 -0700
                                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-10-30 17:44 +0000
                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 10:55 -0700
                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:02 -0700
                                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:09 +0100
                                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:16 -0700
                                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 19:01 +0100
                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:43 -0700
                                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:05 +0000
                                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:13 -0700
                                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 20:59 +0100
                                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-10-30 16:52 -0400
                                          Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 22:07 +0100
                                            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 00:37 -0700
                                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 10:11 +0000
                                                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:07 -0700
                                                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-11-01 11:17 +0000
                                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-11-01 09:52 -0700
                                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-31 12:12 +0100
                                                Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 04:40 -0700
                                                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-31 14:01 +0000
                                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-10-31 08:30 -0700
                                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 11:55 -0700
                                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-30 19:26 +0000
                                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:38 -0700
                                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 12:41 -0700
                                  Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-10-31 03:02 +0000
                              Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-10-30 16:50 -0400
                            Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop jonas.thornvall@gmail.com - 2013-10-30 09:19 -0700
                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 15:15 +0000
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-10-30 15:56 +0100
                      Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:07 +0000
                        Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2013-10-30 16:14 +0000
                    Re: First day beginner to python, add to counter after nested loop rurpy@yahoo.com - 2013-10-30 10:02 -0700

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#58044

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-10-30 15:09 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.1810.1383145780.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58042
On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:

Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython

TIA.

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58049

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 08:35 -0700
Message-ID<17668059-8f33-4333-abaf-5e9e9cfbabfc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58044
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
> 
> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> 
> 
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> TIA.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Lawrence

I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?

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#58051

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 08:51 -0700
Message-ID<ae55d6c5-c56e-45bd-bb98-565920ca7a1d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58049
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:35:29 UTC+1 skrev jonas.t...@gmail.com:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> > On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
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> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
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> > TIA.
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> > 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > -- 
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> > Python is the second best programming language in the world.
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> > 
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> > But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
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> > 
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> > Mark Lawrence
> 
> 
> 
> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?

Another solution would of course be use a newsreader that can do it for you?

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#58052

FromAlister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2013-10-30 15:51 +0000
Message-ID<yW9cu.52340$gs7.45944@fx16.am4>
In reply to#58049
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:35:29 -0700, jonas.thornvall wrote:

> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark
> Lawrence:
>> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
>> 
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TIA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>> 
>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Lawrence
> 
> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code
> for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress
> Google? There must be a simple solution or?

Google are unlikely to change any time soon, if you do not compensate for 
there bad behaviour many people here will start to ignore your posts.

I agree it is a pain, & it is not your fault but these are the basic 
facts.



-- 
A rolling stone gathers no moss.
		-- Publilius Syrus

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#58060

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 09:14 -0700
Message-ID<2e88542a-f722-491c-acca-67aa180c9f57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58052
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:51:58 UTC+1 skrev Alister:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:35:29 -0700, jonas.thornvall wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark
> 
> > Lawrence:
> 
> >> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> TIA.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> --
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Mark Lawrence
> 
> > 
> 
> > I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code
> 
> > for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress
> 
> > Google? There must be a simple solution or?
> 
> 
> 
> Google are unlikely to change any time soon, if you do not compensate for 
> 
> there bad behaviour many people here will start to ignore your posts.
> 
> 
> 
> I agree it is a pain, & it is not your fault but these are the basic 
> 
> facts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> A rolling stone gathers no moss.
> 
> 		-- Publilius Syrus

Well i ain't going to change so i promise unless the spaceout rows fill some purpose it is Google who is going to change. 

Google groups work good for me and i certainly have no intention to change newsreader, but i agree Google should have done something about this years ago *if the empty lines fill no purpose*. And they did a mayor change a couple of years ago, it is a mystery they could not fix this if it serve no purpose?

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#58113

FromDennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Date2013-10-30 16:47 -0400
Message-ID<mailman.1843.1383166051.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58060
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:14:08 -0700 (PDT), jonas.thornvall@gmail.com
declaimed the following:

>Google groups work good for me and i certainly have no intention to change newsreader, but i agree Google should have done something about this years ago *if the empty lines fill no purpose*. And they did a mayor change a couple of years ago, it is a mystery they could not fix this if it serve no purpose?

	Google DID do "something about this"... About a year and half ago, as I
recall.

	That's when they changed their internal format to work on their web
system, and inflicted the horror on any "group" that wasn't a pure
GoogleGroup (ie; things that GG is gatewaying out to UseNet or mailing
lists).

	Prior to that change, the Usenet gateway from GG was clean. They've
chosen to implement something that looks good in a web browser and have no
cares about what they inflict on UseNet -- probably in the hopes of driving
others to using GoogleGroups and their advertising paid hits...

-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#58221

Fromalex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com>
Date2013-11-01 11:07 +1000
Message-ID<l4uut0$f3b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#58060
On 31/10/2013 2:14 AM, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Well i ain't going to change

Thanks for your honesty. As I use an actual standards-compliant 
newsreader, I can now safely killfile you and never have to notice your 
laziness again.

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#58053

Fromrusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 08:53 -0700
Message-ID<f1f9a3c4-51e1-4a30-ad81-495151facec3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58049
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> > On 30/10/2013 14:31, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> > Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> > TIA.
> > -- 
> > Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> > But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> > Mark Lawrence

> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for 
> google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google?
> There must be a simple solution or?

A fully automatic solution would be for google to stop screwing up :-)
One step less is to have some kind of javascript (greasemonkey??) plugin for firefox to cleanup GG's mess

Since I dont pretend to know JS/greasemonkey, I have made a small emacs script.
It involves
1. cut-pasting from browser to emacs
2. pressing a key
3. Cut pasting back

More details https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/Imo2m4GrS_I

So...
4 choices:

1. Do it by hand
2. Do it by emacs
3. Ignore and get unpopular
4. Dont use Google Groups

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#58067

FromKushal Kumaran <kushal.kumaran+python@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 22:00 +0530
Message-ID<mailman.1817.1383150663.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58053

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rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Thornval wrote:
>> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
>> > On 30/10/2013 14:31, Jonas Thornval wrote:
>> > Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
>> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
>> > TIA.
>> > -- 
>> > Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>> > But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>> > Mark Lawrence
>
>> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for 
>> google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google?
>> There must be a simple solution or?
>
> A fully automatic solution would be for google to stop screwing up :-)
> One step less is to have some kind of javascript (greasemonkey??) plugin for firefox to cleanup GG's mess
>
> Since I dont pretend to know JS/greasemonkey, I have made a small emacs script.
> It involves
> 1. cut-pasting from browser to emacs
> 2. pressing a key
> 3. Cut pasting back
>

Getting off topic here, but if you use Firefox, there is an extension
that can do steps 1 and 3 for you:
https://github.com/docwhat/itsalltext/

> More details https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/Imo2m4GrS_I
>
> So...
> 4 choices:
>
> 1. Do it by hand
> 2. Do it by emacs
> 3. Ignore and get unpopular
> 4. Dont use Google Groups

-- 
regards,
kushal

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#58069

Fromrusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 09:45 -0700
Message-ID<7ae3ae94-17e2-4c77-9ac6-1ad0dfc1e870@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58067
Super Kushal!
Below is the result of that
First the original 
Then emacs' cleaned up version!



-----------------Original --------------------------

On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:00:47 PM UTC+5:30, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> rusi  writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> 
> >> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> >> > On 30/10/2013 14:31, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> 
> >> > Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
> 
> >> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> 
> >> > TIA.
> 
> >> > -- 
> 
> >> > Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> >> > But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> >> > Mark Lawrence
> 
> >
> 
> >> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for 
> 
> >> google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google?
> 
> >> There must be a simple solution or?
> 
> >
> 
> > A fully automatic solution would be for google to stop screwing up :-)
> 
> > One step less is to have some kind of javascript (greasemonkey??) plugin for firefox to cleanup GG's mess
> 
> >
> 
> > Since I dont pretend to know JS/greasemonkey, I have made a small emacs script.
> 
> > It involves
> 
> > 1. cut-pasting from browser to emacs
> 
> > 2. pressing a key
> 
> > 3. Cut pasting back
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Getting off topic here, but if you use Firefox, there is an extension
> 
> that can do steps 1 and 3 for you:
> 
> https://github.com/docwhat/itsalltext/
> 
> 
> 
> > More details https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/Imo2m4GrS_I
> 
> >
> 
> > So...
> 
> > 4 choices:
> 
> >
> 
> > 1. Do it by hand
> 
> > 2. Do it by emacs
> 
> > 3. Ignore and get unpopular
> 
> > 4. Dont use Google Groups
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> regards,
> 
> kushal




----After replacement-------------------




On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:00:47 PM UTC+5:30, Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> rusi  writes:

> > On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:05:29 PM UTC+5:30, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> >> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> >> > On 30/10/2013 14:31, Jonas Thornval wrote:
> >> > Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this 
> >> > https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> >> > TIA.
> >> > -- 
> >> > Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> >> > But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> >> > Mark Lawrence
> >
> >> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for 
> >> google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google?
> >> There must be a simple solution or?
> >
> > A fully automatic solution would be for google to stop screwing up :-)
> > One step less is to have some kind of javascript (greasemonkey??) plugin for firefox to cleanup GG's mess
> >
> > Since I dont pretend to know JS/greasemonkey, I have made a small emacs script.
> > It involves
> > 1. cut-pasting from browser to emacs
> > 2. pressing a key
> > 3. Cut pasting back
> >

> Getting off topic here, but if you use Firefox, there is an extension
> that can do steps 1 and 3 for you:
> https://github.com/docwhat/itsalltext/

> > More details https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.python/Imo2m4GrS_I
> >
> > So...
> > 4 choices:
> >
> > 1. Do it by hand
> > 2. Do it by emacs
> > 3. Ignore and get unpopular
> > 4. Dont use Google Groups

> -- 
> regards,
> kushal

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#58054

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-10-30 15:54 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.1814.1383148476.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58049
On 30/10/2013 15:35, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
>> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
>>
>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>>
>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Lawrence
>
> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?
>

The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing 
this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything 
about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not 
enough profit in it.

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58056

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 08:57 -0700
Message-ID<dfb7ba35-9c10-4f1d-8f46-ec282b7fac40@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58054
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> On 30/10/2013 15:35, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> >> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
> 
> >>
> 
> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> TIA.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> --
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Mark Lawrence
> 
> >
> 
> > I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing 
> 
> this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything 
> 
> about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not 
> 
> enough profit in it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Lawrence

Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own newsreader.

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#58059

FromAlister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com>
Date2013-10-30 16:13 +0000
Message-ID<ieacu.52342$gs7.27366@fx16.am4>
In reply to#58056
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 08:57:08 -0700, jonas.thornvall wrote:

> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark
> Lawrence:
>> On 30/10/2013 15:35, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark
>> > Lawrence:
>> 
>> >> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> >> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> >> TIA.
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> >> --
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> >> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> >> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>> 
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> 
>> >>
>> >> Mark Lawrence
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the
>> > code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should
>> > adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> 
>> 
>> The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing
>> 
>> this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything
>> 
>> about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not
>> 
>> enough profit in it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>> 
>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark Lawrence
> 
> Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own
> newsreader.

That was totally unnecessary, your rudeness levels are now approaching 
that of another poster I wont mention.
I expect the level of assistance you receive will fall of dramatically 
now which is a shame as newcomers to the language should be helped & 
encouraged wherever possible.




-- 
I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's 
accomplishments.
The front page has nothing but man's failures.
		-- Chief Justice Earl Warren

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#58062

Fromrusi <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Date2013-10-30 09:16 -0700
Message-ID<15c5351b-d62f-44b4-a3d4-77865d4bded6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58056
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:27:08 PM UTC+5:30, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> > The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing 
> > this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything 
> > about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not 
> > enough profit in it.

> Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own newsreader.

Yes I guess if Mark speaks in that way he will get that kind of response. (Sigh)

However Jonas, please remember that this list is read by thousands.
And by posting 5 times more lines than is relevant to the discussion you are making a nuisance of yourself to all those readers.

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#58068

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-10-30 16:38 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.1818.1383151110.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58062
On 30/10/2013 16:16, rusi wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:27:08 PM UTC+5:30, jonas.t...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
>>> The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing
>>> this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything
>>> about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not
>>> enough profit in it.
>
>> Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own newsreader.
>
> Yes I guess if Mark speaks in that way he will get that kind of response. (Sigh)
>
> However Jonas, please remember that this list is read by thousands.
> And by posting 5 times more lines than is relevant to the discussion you are making a nuisance of yourself to all those readers.
>

I count 21 emails from the OP within the last 24 hours.  That means 20 
are double spaced.  So, how many times do you have to ask before the 
culprit does something about the problem?  In this case infinity as the 
OP has stated that they will not change, thanks a bunch for that.

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58064

FromMark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-10-30 16:22 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.1815.1383150159.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58056
On 30/10/2013 15:57, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
>> On 30/10/2013 15:35, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
>>
>>>> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> TIA.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> --
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Mark Lawrence
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing
>>
>> this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything
>>
>> about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not
>>
>> enough profit in it.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
>>
>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Lawrence
>
> Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own newsreader.
>

I have no need to implement a newsreader as I can quite happily send and 
receive data using Thunderbird.  There are several other similar email 
options available.  An alternative is for you to show others some 
courtesy and follow the instructions that would show just a few lines up 
from here, except that your insistence on using bug ridden technology 
means it's actually light years away.

-- 
Python is the second best programming language in the world.
But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer

Mark Lawrence

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#58066

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 09:31 -0700
Message-ID<a5d6217d-33db-4577-9c2c-e001162b53b1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58064
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 17:22:23 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> On 30/10/2013 15:57, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:54:19 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> >> On 30/10/2013 15:35, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 16:09:25 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> On 30/10/2013 14:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> Would you please be kind enough to read, digest and action this
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> TIA.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> --
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>> Mark Lawrence
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>> I am all for automatiation to be honest i rather go in change the code for google than do it manual. Maybe those who complain should adress Google? There must be a simple solution or?
> 
> >>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> The simplest solution is that you stop posting, as you've been spewing
> 
> >>
> 
> >> this double spaced crap all day and show no inclination to do anything
> 
> >>
> 
> >> about it.  I assume that google won't fix their problem as there's not
> 
> >>
> 
> >> enough profit in it.
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> --
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Mark Lawrence
> 
> >
> 
> > Bug of anal monkey either solve your own problems, or implement your own newsreader.
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> I have no need to implement a newsreader as I can quite happily send and 
> 
> receive data using Thunderbird.  There are several other similar email 
> 
> options available.  An alternative is for you to show others some 
> 
> courtesy and follow the instructions that would show just a few lines up 
> 
> from here, except that your insistence on using bug ridden technology 
> 
> means it's actually light years away.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Python is the second best programming language in the world.
> 
> But the best has yet to be invented.  Christian Tismer
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Lawrence

No that is not my problem, apparently so it is that the newsreader constructors do not like the competition of Google groups otherwise they would had written the five lines of codes necessary to remove the empty linebreaks.
I like web based features, and i will use them until "they get it right, understood?"
End of story

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#58073

FromMRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com>
Date2013-10-30 17:44 +0000
Message-ID<mailman.1820.1383155067.18130.python-list@python.org>
In reply to#58066
On 30/10/2013 16:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 17:22:23 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> No that is not my problem, apparently so it is that the newsreader constructors do not like the competition of Google groups otherwise they would had written the five lines of codes necessary to remove the empty linebreaks.
> I like web based features, and i will use them until "they get it right, understood?"
> End of story
>
Google Groups aren't following the standard. Everybody else is. Why
should everybody else have to add a fix to correct what Google Groups
keeps getting wrong?

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#58074

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 10:55 -0700
Message-ID<9568d5a2-587d-4cfa-96df-a0a3d3367cef@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58073
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 18:44:20 UTC+1 skrev MRAB:
> On 30/10/2013 16:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 17:22:23 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> > No that is not my problem, apparently so it is that the newsreader constructors do not like the competition of Google groups otherwise they would had written the five lines of codes necessary to remove the empty linebreaks.
> 
> > I like web based features, and i will use them until "they get it right, understood?"
> 
> > End of story
> 
> >
> 
> Google Groups aren't following the standard. Everybody else is. Why
> 
> should everybody else have to add a fix to correct what Google Groups
> 
> keeps getting wrong?

Honestly i do not understand why you direct this question to me.

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#58075

Fromjonas.thornvall@gmail.com
Date2013-10-30 11:02 -0700
Message-ID<c022202b-d456-4544-a403-7452a179f032@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#58073
Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 18:44:20 UTC+1 skrev MRAB:
> On 30/10/2013 16:31, jonas.thornvall@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Den onsdagen den 30:e oktober 2013 kl. 17:22:23 UTC+1 skrev Mark Lawrence:
> 
> > No that is not my problem, apparently so it is that the newsreader constructors do not like the competition of Google groups otherwise they would had written the five lines of codes necessary to remove the empty linebreaks.
> 
> > I like web based features, and i will use them until "they get it right, understood?"
> 
> > End of story
> 
> >
> 
> Google Groups aren't following the standard. Everybody else is. Why
> 
> should everybody else have to add a fix to correct what Google Groups
> 
> keeps getting wrong?

I do see though this have to be something related to their database, nothing they do by purpose. So unless the database storing messages change, it probably would need an ugly fix like a script.

So probably you should direct your question to either the creators of googles database or beg the creators of google groups to do a fix...

I think the later is the way to go although i suspect this has something todo with the database storing the messages.

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