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  Re: Uninstall milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 07:39 -0300
    Re: Uninstall Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:29 +0000
      Re: Uninstall milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:01 -0300
      Re: Uninstall sohcahtoa82@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        Re: Uninstall Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-04 21:01 +0100
          Re: Uninstall Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-05 13:02 +0200
        Re: Uninstall Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2015-08-04 15:06 -0700
          Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 03:08 +0100
          Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 03:18 +0100
            Re: Uninstall Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 21:42 -0700
              Re: Uninstall paul.anton.letnes@gmail.com - 2015-08-04 22:45 -0700
        Re: Uninstall Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 02:51 +0100
          Re: Uninstall Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2015-08-04 19:03 -0700
        Re: Uninstall Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-05 11:25 +0100
        Re: Uninstall Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-08-05 15:35 -0700

#94962 — Re: Uninstall

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you can't fully uninstall python from OSX, linux, BSD as there are many
python dependent system tools

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#94966

On 2015-08-04, milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> wrote:

> you can't fully uninstall python from OSX, linux, BSD as there are many
> python dependent system tools

Well, technically you _can_ uninstall Python if you really want, but
all sorts of things will stop working.  In some cases, it's very hard
to recover from that situation.  Among the things that will stop
working on some flavors of Linux are the system utilities you normally
use to install things like Python.

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! World War III?
                                  at               No thanks!
                              gmail.com            

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#94968

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that's my point

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#94971

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2015-08-04, milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > you can't fully uninstall python from OSX, linux, BSD as there are many
> > python dependent system tools
> 
> Well, technically you _can_ uninstall Python if you really want, but
> all sorts of things will stop working.  In some cases, it's very hard
> to recover from that situation.  Among the things that will stop
> working on some flavors of Linux are the system utilities you normally
> use to install things like Python.
> 
> -- 
> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! World War III?
>                                   at               No thanks!
>                               gmail.com

milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"

I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing list are.

milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.  I thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant "shouldn't".

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#94974

On 04/08/2015 19:31, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2015-08-04, milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> you can't fully uninstall python from OSX, linux, BSD as there are many
>>> python dependent system tools
>>
>> Well, technically you _can_ uninstall Python if you really want, but
>> all sorts of things will stop working.  In some cases, it's very hard
>> to recover from that situation.  Among the things that will stop
>> working on some flavors of Linux are the system utilities you normally
>> use to install things like Python.
>>
>> --
>> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! World War III?
>>                                    at               No thanks!
>>                                gmail.com
>
> milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
> Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"
>
> I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing list are.
>
> milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.  I thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant "shouldn't".
>

The simple solution is not to subscribe.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#95012

Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 04/08/2015 19:31, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote:
>> I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing
>> list are.
>>
>> milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.  I
>> thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant
>> "shouldn't".
> 
> The simple solution is not to subscribe.

Too late.  The simple solution for them is to _unsubscribe_ now :)

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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#94979

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:32:16 PM UTC-4, sohca...@gmail.com wrote:
> milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
> Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"
> 
> I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing list are.
> 
> milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.  I thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant "shouldn't".

While I am often dismayed at the pedantry on this list (and many others),
in this case, I think the clarification was warranted.  When a beginner
is about to attempt something dangerous, it is prudent to be sure the
instructions are clear.

"You can't uninstall, because things won't work" sounds a bit like,
"you literally will not be able to uninstall things, because the operating
system will prevent you because it protects itself."

I wouldn't want the next message to be the original asker saying, "No,
look, I was able to uninstall just fine!" without realizing they were
damaging their system.

--Ned.

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#94986

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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:32:16 PM UTC-4, sohca...@gmail.com wrote:
> > milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
> > Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"
> >
> > I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing
list are.
> >
> > milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.
I thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant
"shouldn't".
>
> While I am often dismayed at the pedantry on this list (and many others),
> in this case, I think the clarification was warranted.  When a beginner
> is about to attempt something dangerous, it is prudent to be sure the
> instructions are clear.
>
> "You can't uninstall, because things won't work" sounds a bit like,
> "you literally will not be able to uninstall things, because the operating
> system will prevent you because it protects itself."
>
> I wouldn't want the next message to be the original asker saying, "No,
> look, I was able to uninstall just fine!" without realizing they were
> damaging their system.
>

Pedantry sort of comes with the territory. It's in the job description, so
to speak. DJ Wiza should know that. There's that used joke of the
programmer's wife that asks him to bring 3 loaves of bread and if there are
any eggs to bring a dozen, and the programmer brings her wife a dozen
loaves of bread.

But being an asshole does not. That is something one chooses to become.
Your answer squarely puts you in the group of people that chose to be in
life to be a pain to others and actually gain the respect of even those
that don't even know them. Unlike some other people in here.

But Mark is right in a way... People like him is a reason I rarely frequent
this place anymore.

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#94987

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On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Mario Figueiredo <marfig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> But being an asshole does not. That is something one chooses to become.
Your answer squarely puts you in the group of people that chose to be in
life to be a pain to others [...]

An ugly mistyping there completely changed the meaning of what I intended
to say. For clarification, I mean to say: "Your answer squarely puts you in
the group of people that DIDN'T chose to be in life to be a pain to others"

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#94990

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 7:49:10 AM UTC+5:30, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Mario Figueiredo <mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > But being an asshole does not. That is something one chooses to become. Your answer squarely puts you in the group of people that chose to be in life to be a pain to others [...]
> 
> 
> An ugly mistyping there completely changed the meaning of what I intended to say. For clarification, I mean to say: "Your answer squarely puts you in the group of people that DIDN'T chose to be in life to be a pain to others"

And nobody's yet asked whether the python on the mac the OP wants to uninstall
is the system python or something he added later

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#94994

Right. Try 
"which python" in the terminal and report back!

Cheers
Paul

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#94984

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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> On 04/08/2015 19:31, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-04, milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> you can't fully uninstall python from OSX, linux, BSD as there are many
>>>> python dependent system tools
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, technically you _can_ uninstall Python if you really want, but
>>> all sorts of things will stop working.  In some cases, it's very hard
>>> to recover from that situation.  Among the things that will stop
>>> working on some flavors of Linux are the system utilities you normally
>>> use to install things like Python.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! World War III?
>>>                                    at               No thanks!
>>>                                gmail.com
>>>
>>
>> milos: "You can't uninstall Python because it will break things"
>> Grant: "Actually, you CAN uninstall Python, but it will break things"
>>
>> I really fucking hate how pedantic some of the people on this mailing
>> list are.
>>
>> milos wasn't wrong.  You just chose to take his message too literally.  I
>> thought it was pretty clear that when milos said "can't", he really meant
>> "shouldn't".
>>
>>
> The simple solution is not to subscribe.
>
>
Or even better, tell you to fuck off.

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#94985

On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 9:51:27 PM UTC-4, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Lawrence <bream...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> The simple solution is not to subscribe.
> 
> 
> Or even better, tell you to fuck off. 

Can we please try to stay civil?

--Ned.

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#95010

On 05/08/2015 02:51, Mario Figueiredo wrote:

[chopped to pieces]

> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>     On 04/08/2015 19:31, sohcahtoa82@gmail.com
>     <mailto:sohcahtoa82@gmail.com> wrote:
>         On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 7:29:29 AM UTC-7, Grant Edwards wrote:
>             On 2015-08-04, milos zorica <miloshzorica@gmail.com
>
>     The simple solution is not to subscribe.
>
> Or even better, tell you to fuck off.
>

I trust that you also have a good day :)

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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#95042

On 8/4/2015 6:51 PM, Mario Figueiredo wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>

<snip>

>> The simple solution is not to subscribe.

Yes -- it's about gotten to that point.

> Or even better, tell you to fuck off.

Now that's a first to my recollection.  I must say I prefer the pedantry 
to your civility.

But-neither-is-much-to-my-liking-ly y'rs,

Emile

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