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Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting

From Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting
Date 2015-06-24 21:24 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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On 2015-06-24, Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> wrote:
> On 06/24/2015 01:29 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2015-06-24, Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> wrote:
>>> On 06/24/2015 06:36 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't understand how mangling the data is supposed to protect the
>>>> recipient. Don't they have the ability unmangle the data, and thus
>>>> expose themselves to whatever nasties are in the files?
>>>
>>> They never look at the data and wouldn't care to unmangle it.
>>
>> I obviously don't "get it". If the recipient is never going look at
>> the data or unmangle it, why not convert every received file to a
>> single null byte?  That way you save on disk space as well --
>> especially if you just create links for all files after the initial
>> one.  ;)
>
> These are machines storing chunks of other people's data.  The data 
> owner chunks a file, compresses and encrypts it, then sends it to 
> several storage servers.  The storage server might be a Raspberry PI 
> with a USB disk or a Windows XP machine - I can't know which.

OK.  But if the recipient (the server) mangles the data and then never
unmangles or reads the data, there doesn't seem to be any point in
storing it.  I must be misunderstanding your statement that the data
is never read/unmangled.

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Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! A can of ASPARAGUS,
                                  at               73 pigeons, some LIVE ammo,
                              gmail.com            and a FROZEN DAQUIRI!!

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Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> - 2015-06-23 14:02 -0500
  Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-06-24 21:36 +1000
    Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-24 14:02 +0000
      Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-06-24 08:52 -0700
        Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-24 16:16 +0000
          Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 02:23 +1000
            Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-24 18:23 +0000
          Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-24 21:24 -0400
      Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-06-25 01:55 +1000
      Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Emile van Sebille <emile@fenx.com> - 2015-06-24 09:09 -0700
    Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> - 2015-06-24 13:20 -0500
      Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-24 18:29 +0000
        Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> - 2015-06-24 14:00 -0500
          Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-24 21:24 +0000
            Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> - 2015-06-24 18:13 -0500
    Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-06-24 21:33 -0400
    Re: Pure Python Data Mangling or Encrypting Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> - 2015-06-25 14:41 -0500

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