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| Date | Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:04:17 +0200 |
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snorble wrote: > I'm not a Pythonista, but I aspire to be. > > My current tools: > > Python, gvim, OS file system > > My current practices: > > When I write a Python app, I have several unorganized scripts in a > directory (usually with several named test1.py, test2.py, etc., from > random ideas I have tested), and maybe a todo.txt file. Then I hack > away, adding features in a semi-random order. Then I get busy with > other things. Maybe one week I spend 20 hours on development. The next > week, no time on development. A few weeks later when I have some time, > I'm excited to get back to making progress, only to find that I have > to spend 30-60 minutes figuring out where I left off. The code is > usually out of sync with todo.txt. I see people who release new > versions and bug fixes, so I sometimes will create a new directory and > continue working from that copy, because it seems like the thing to > do. But if I ever made something worth releasing, and got a request > like, "I have problems with the 2.0 version. Can you send me the old > 1.1 version?" I'd be like, "uhhh... let me hunt through my files by > hand and get back to you in a month". I'm thinking I can do a lot > better than this. > > I am aware of tools like version control systems, bug trackers, and > things like these, but I'm not really sure if I need them, or how to > use them properly. I think having some organization to all of this > would help me to make more consistent progress, and spend less time > bringing myself up to speed after some time off. > > I really like the idea of having a list of features, and tackling > those features one at a time. I read about people who do this, and > each new features gets a new minor version number. It sounds very > organized and clean. But I'm not really sure of the best way to > achieve this. Mainly I think I just need some recommendations to help > create a good mental map of what needs to happen, and mapping jargon > to concepts. Like, "each feature gets its own directory". Or with a > version control tool, I don't know if a feature maps to a branch, or a > commit? > > I appreciate any advice or guidance anyone has to offer. > You can have a look at SVN and bugzilla, they are free SCM & bug tracker applications. Make sure it's worth the pain though, these tools are not that easy to administrate (the usage is pretty simple). JM
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Development tools and practices for Pythonistas snorble <snorble@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-26 07:39 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 09:00 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas "Martin P. Hellwig" <martin.hellwig@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 17:02 +0000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2011-04-26 19:59 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-04-27 04:42 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2011-04-27 00:32 +0200
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools (was ""Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-26 20:44 -0500
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-27 12:45 +1000
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-27 16:51 +1000
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-27 14:13 -0500
Re: Comparing VCS tools (was ""Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 19:50 -0700
Re: Comparing VCS tools (was ""Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 22:37 -0700
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools (was ""Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") Kevin Walzer <kw@codebykevin.com> - 2011-04-29 09:26 -0400
Re: [OT] Comparing VCS tools (was ""Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-30 05:08 +1100
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-04-26 20:04 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 11:29 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 11:31 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-04-27 04:50 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-27 06:14 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-27 09:41 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-04-27 10:44 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-04-27 11:24 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2011-04-27 15:13 +0300
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-04-27 14:24 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Hans Georg Schaathun <hg@schaathun.net> - 2011-04-30 08:37 +0100
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-30 09:15 +0000
Re: [OT] VCS for non-text (was Development tools and practices for Pythonistas) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-30 09:18 -0500
Re: [OT] VCS for non-text (was Development tools and practices for Pythonistas) Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2011-05-01 19:53 +0000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Hans Georg Schaathun <hg@schaathun.net> - 2011-04-29 19:35 +0100
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-30 09:17 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas CM <cmpython@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 20:21 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-04-29 23:54 -0400
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-05-01 10:36 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Shawn Milochik <shawn@milochik.com> - 2011-04-30 20:47 -0400
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Dietmar Schwertberger <news@schwertberger.de> - 2011-05-01 18:11 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Jason Earl <jearl@notengoamigos.org> - 2011-05-01 14:51 -0600
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-05-02 07:49 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-01 19:37 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas David Boddie <david@boddie.org.uk> - 2011-05-02 01:33 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Dietmar Schwertberger <news@schwertberger.de> - 2011-05-02 19:40 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Shawn Milochik <shawn@milochik.com> - 2011-04-29 23:49 -0400
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-05-01 20:06 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-05-02 13:22 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-05-01 20:45 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-05-02 17:08 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-05-02 00:19 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-05-02 17:48 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas jacek2v <jacek2v@gmail.com> - 2011-05-02 02:09 -0700
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Algis Kabaila <akabaila@pcug.org.au> - 2011-05-02 20:38 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-27 22:14 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-27 19:33 +1000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2011-04-27 13:17 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Thomas Rachel <nutznetz-0c1b6768-bfa9-48d5-a470-7603bd3aa915@spamschutz.glglgl.de> - 2011-04-27 20:08 +0200
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-28 09:44 +1000
Re: [OT] VCS tools (was "Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-27 14:07 -0500
Re: [OT] VCS tools (was "Development tools and practices for Pythonistas") Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 20:48 +0000
Re: [OT] VCS tools Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-29 07:50 +1000
Re: [OT] VCS tools Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-28 18:09 -0500
Re: [OT] VCS tools Daniel Kluev <dan.kluev@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 11:37 +1100
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? (was: VCS tools) Hans Georg Schaathun <georg@schaathun.net> - 2011-04-29 11:07 +0100
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-29 06:50 -0500
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? Hans Georg Schaathun <hg@schaathun.net> - 2011-04-29 18:01 +0100
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2011-04-29 13:23 -0500
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-29 22:53 +1000
Re: [OT] From svn to something else? "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.net> - 2011-04-29 09:26 -0400
Re: [OT] VCS tools Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2011-04-29 18:46 +0000
Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 14:00 -0700
recommended Emacs mode (was Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas) Gour-Gadadhara Dasa <gour@atmarama.net> - 2011-04-27 08:39 +0200
Re: recommended Emacs mode (was Re: Development tools and practices for Pythonistas) rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-27 00:51 -0700
Re: recommended Emacs mode Gour-Gadadhara Dasa <gour@atmarama.net> - 2011-04-27 10:10 +0200
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