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Re: How security holes happen

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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> wrote:
> > On 03Mar2014 09:17, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>  Charles R Harris <charlesr.harris@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
> >> >
> >>
> >> Imo the lesson here is never write in low level c. Use modern
> >>  languages with well designed exception handling.
> >
> > What, and rely on someone else's low level C?
>
> Someone needs to port Python to LISP.
>
> And then write a LISP interpreter in JavaScript.
>
> And an ECMAScript engine in Pike.
>
> And a Pike interpreter in Java.
>
> And a Java run-time written in ActionScript.
>
> It's turtles all the way down...
>

You can go much simpler than that. Merely port Python to LISP, then write a
LISP interpreter in Python. Done.

Now, bootstrapping those interpreters might pose a bit of a challenge...


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Re: How security holes happen Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-03-03 14:55 -0800
  Re: How security holes happen sffjunkie@gmail.com - 2014-03-04 08:41 -0800
    Re: How security holes happen Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 04:07 +1100
    Re: How security holes happen Skip Montanaro <skip@pobox.com> - 2014-03-04 11:16 -0600
    Re: How security holes happen Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-03-04 15:47 -0500
    Re: How security holes happen Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-03-04 13:49 -0800
      Re: How security holes happen Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-05 00:48 +0200
        Re: How security holes happen Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 09:57 +1100
          Re: How security holes happen Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-04 17:59 -0500
            Re: How security holes happen Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-04 23:16 +0000
            Re: How security holes happen Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 10:22 +1100
            Re: How security holes happen Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-03-04 23:40 +0000
        Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-04 19:31 -0500
        Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-04 19:30 -0500
          Re: How security holes happen Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2014-03-04 20:57 -0500
            Re: How security holes happen MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-05 04:11 +0000
              Re: How security holes happen Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-05 08:37 +0200
                Re: How security holes happen Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-05 08:26 +0000
                Re: How security holes happen Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-03-05 19:57 +1100
                Re: How security holes happen Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-05 11:01 +0200
                Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 06:11 -0800
                Re: How security holes happen Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 02:16 +1100
                Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-05 19:24 -0500
                Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 17:24 -0800
                Re: How security holes happen MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-06 01:40 +0000
                Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 18:07 -0800
                Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-06 19:28 -0500
                Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 17:53 -0800
                Re: How security holes happen MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2014-03-07 02:13 +0000
                Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 18:39 -0800
                Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-07 19:46 -0500
                Re: How security holes happen Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2014-03-07 19:43 -0500
        Re: How security holes happen Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2014-03-05 14:19 +0000
          Re: How security holes happen Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-03-05 16:54 +0200
            Re: How security holes happen Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-05 18:42 +0000
              Re: How security holes happen Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-03-06 06:00 +1100
        Re: How security holes happen Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-03-05 15:28 +0000
        Re: How security holes happen Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-03-05 15:47 +0000
          Re: How security holes happen "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777@gmail.com> - 2014-03-05 08:37 -0800

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