Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #65561

Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation

Path csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <larry.martell@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.006
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'argument': 0.05; 'configure': 0.05; 'insert': 0.05; 'stops': 0.07; 'key.': 0.09; 'spaces': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'did.': 0.16; 'encountered,': 0.16; 'set,': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'tab,': 0.16; 'tabs': 0.16; 'pushed': 0.16; 'appropriate': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'file,': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'written': 0.21; 'feb': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'preferred': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'error': 0.23; 'replace': 0.24; 'decide': 0.24; 'looks': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'script': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'work.': 0.31; '>>>>': 0.31; 'accidentally': 0.31; 'another.': 0.31; 'indentation': 0.31; 'larry': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'surely': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'configured': 0.38; 'mine': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'space': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'matter': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'times': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'pick': 0.64; 'press': 0.70; 'bitten': 0.84; "else's": 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'rip': 0.84
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=M2+n1XmQTt53HortdxkhcNDuF8DoqQpceqM5j3AXsok=; b=L3u9KcP7dv14bl0u3jFZTK67CbjUZLGD5+Xrz1wMxvX2uV89Vbpo9XAZwH2MWuspKG B+FRjOtErrPHxiqhH5DiFVd2aGgfr9n3FkTxFsfK6owWYq7dsasdXvSewAxjp69Shgbp w3RJ0d7xWpTHgpLQ+FI9S+ZLJlbwEprD+PCOs5BuNrYeVomOJrcAo/8x9qLPYpnXzCRY 0QXA3BqOAGg+2ntHDo4h/aReCG7Z+ER2AX7zuaffJIVlDRcnsG0fLBqZlWmm7srVyJoD yZuwTYJrV1YK8T7WU5a6bBHmpqcdWKEEw1egkdBQ95GGeu12ErFRL+Pmb7edVWff3IF7 pIGQ==
MIME-Version 1.0
X-Received by 10.140.26.43 with SMTP id 40mr15222053qgu.86.1391724584050; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:09:44 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To <52F3FF51.3050502@stoneleaf.us>
References <f63f079f-da05-4f09-ad01-4b764ef16d7f@googlegroups.com> <ld0rb2$5od$1@ger.gmane.org> <CACwCsY780xSMED=Gn-QSvRzbb_Y0=QcJuqfkUS1OVomvE6YRJA@mail.gmail.com> <52F3FF51.3050502@stoneleaf.us>
Date Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:09:43 -0500
Subject Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation
From Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com>
To Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us>
Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Cc "python-list@python.org" <python-list@python.org>
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.15
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.6462.1391724621.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 37
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1391724621 news.xs4all.nl 2945 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44775
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:65561

Show key headers only | View raw

On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 12:36 PM, Larry Martell wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Roel Schroeven wrote:
>>>
>>> msustik@gmail.com schreef:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While editing this file I accidentally pushed TAB on the line with 'y =
>>>> z
>>>> + y'.
>>>
>>>
>>> My suggestion: configure your editor to insert the appropriate amount of
>>> spaces instead of a tab when you press the tab key.
>>
>>
>> +1 - tabs are evil.
>
>
> Tabs are not evil, and an argument can be made that tabs are better (a
> decent editor can be configured to show x many spaces per tab, then users
> could decide how much indentation they preferred to see... but I digress).
>
> Using spaces instead of tabs would also have not prevented the error that
> Msustik encountered, and for that matter we don't know whether he was using
> tabs or spaces in his source file, only that he hit the Tab key -- surely
> you are not suggesting everyone rip out their tab key and just hit the space
> bar four times for each level of indentation?  ;)

The Tab key is not evil, it's the tab character (Ctrl-I). I have been
bitten by this many time when I had to work on a program written by
another. They had their tab stops set at 5 or 6, mine is set at 4, or
they did not have expandtab set, but I did. So you get either a script
that looks misaligned, but works, or one that does not look misaligned
but doesn't work. When I have to pick up someone else's script the
first thing I do is replace the tabs with spaces.

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-05 19:02 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-02-06 03:08 +0000
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:47 +1100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 21:23 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-02-06 03:09 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-06 14:49 +0000
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-06 10:51 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-06 21:29 +0100
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-06 17:20 -0800
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 12:57 +1100
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-07 23:08 +0100
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Jurko Gospodnetić <jurko.gospodnetic@pke.hr> - 2014-02-08 12:11 +0100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:36 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-06 13:32 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 17:09 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 09:30 +1100
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:01 -0800
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 11:08 +1100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-07 23:06 +0100

csiph-web