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Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation

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Date 2014-02-07 09:30 +1100
Subject Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.6463.1391725827.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Tab key is not evil, it's the tab character (Ctrl-I). I have been
> bitten by this many time when I had to work on a program written by
> another. They had their tab stops set at 5 or 6, mine is set at 4, or
> they did not have expandtab set, but I did. So you get either a script
> that looks misaligned, but works, or one that does not look misaligned
> but doesn't work. When I have to pick up someone else's script the
> first thing I do is replace the tabs with spaces.

All you've proven is that *mixing* spaces and tabs is evil. It's like
arguing that oil is evil because, when you mix it with water, weird
stuff happens. But that doesn't mean I want to fry my bacon in water.

Mmm, bacon.

Sorry. I'm back now. Ahem. Arguably, a better fix is to replace spaces
with tabs, because they're more obvious. But mainly, just be
consistent. Whatever one file uses, it uses exclusively. It'd be
pretty easy to create a git commit hook that checks files for leading
indentation and rejects the commit if it's mismatched; I would guess
the same is true in Mercurial.

But none of this would solve the OP's original issue. Whether it's a
tab or spaces, unexpectedly indenting a line of code is a problem.
It's no different from accidentally hitting Ctrl-T in SciTE and
reordering two lines, when one line depends on the other. It's a bug.
So you look at your commits before you make them (to give yourself a
chance to catch it quickly), and you make sure you can always look
back over your commits (in case you didn't catch it quickly). Much
better than blaming the characters involved. Poor innocent U+0009.

ChrisA

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how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-05 19:02 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2014-02-06 03:08 +0000
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:47 +1100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-05 21:23 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-02-06 03:09 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2014-02-06 14:49 +0000
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-06 10:51 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-06 21:29 +0100
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation msustik@gmail.com - 2014-02-06 17:20 -0800
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 12:57 +1100
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-07 23:08 +0100
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Jurko Gospodnetić <jurko.gospodnetic@pke.hr> - 2014-02-08 12:11 +0100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:36 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-02-06 13:32 -0800
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Larry Martell <larry.martell@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 17:09 -0500
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 09:30 +1100
    Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Asaf Las <roegltd@gmail.com> - 2014-02-06 15:01 -0800
      Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-02-07 11:08 +1100
  Re: how to reduce bugs due to incorrect indentation Roel Schroeven <roel@roelschroeven.net> - 2014-02-07 23:06 +0100

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