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Re: Beginner Tutorials

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On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:04:39 -0800 (PST)
Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> wrote:

> The reason for disabling right-click has nothing to do with
> protecting content, and everything to do with stopping my students
> from taking the lazy way out.
> 
> Given the chance, they'll copy/paste the code and download the
> designs and edit them slightly. They'd get through the tutorials in
> about 25 minutes and have learnt next to nothing.

None of the good teachers I ever had blamed the students for not learning.
The teacher's challenge is to figure out how to get all those minds to learn.
It ain't easy. 

> 
> In talking to students about existing resources, they said that
> blindly copying code didn't really help them get a deep understanding
> of algorithms and how to apply them to other problems.
> 
> In the password-protected solutions i will provide downloads to
> source code, etc, and any student smart enough to get around my
> protection probably understands python basics :)

Right, that's a better assignment to give them.

> 
> Thanks for the comments.


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Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 06:47 -0800
  Re: Beginner Tutorials marco.kretz@jobmensa.de - 2013-01-18 07:53 -0800
  Re: Beginner Tutorials Virgil Stokes <vs@it.uu.se> - 2013-01-18 16:52 +0100
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 08:55 -0800
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 08:55 -0800
  Re: Beginner Tutorials Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 11:35 -0500
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 09:04 -0800
      Re: Beginner Tutorials Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 12:34 -0500
      Re: Beginner Tutorials Ritchie Flick <xenplex@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 18:44 +0100
      Re: Beginner Tutorials rh <richard_hubbe11@lavabit.com> - 2013-01-18 11:14 -0800
      Re: Beginner Tutorials Kwpolska <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 20:20 +0100
        Re: Beginner Tutorials Kwpolska <kwpolska@gmail.com> - 2013-01-19 12:46 +0100
      Re: Beginner Tutorials Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 17:25 -0800
        Re: Beginner Tutorials Evan Driscoll <driscoll@cs.wisc.edu> - 2013-01-18 22:36 -0600
          Re: Beginner Tutorials Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 22:22 -0800
          Re: Beginner Tutorials Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 22:22 -0800
      Re: Beginner Tutorials Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 17:25 -0800
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 09:04 -0800
  Re: Beginner Tutorials Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-01-18 16:35 +0000
  Re: Beginner Tutorials Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-01-18 16:44 +0000
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 09:16 -0800
    Re: Beginner Tutorials Rik <rik.j.cross@gmail.com> - 2013-01-18 09:16 -0800

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