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Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python?

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Date	2012-02-17 20:51 -0800
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Subject	Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python?
From	88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com>
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在 2012年2月18日星期六UTC+8上午9时51分13秒，Michael Torrie写道：
> On 02/16/2012 10:25 PM, 88888 Dihedral wrote:
> > Android is a customized linux OS used in mobile phones. I don't think
> > any linux systm has to be locked by JAVA or any JVM to run
> > applications.
> 
> Getting waaayyyy off topic here, but...
> 
> I guess you aren't familiar with what Android is (which is ironic, given
> that a lot of people on this list think you must be one!).  Android is
> not simply a customized linux distribution.  It's a special application
> environment (an OS in its own right) that is based on the Dalvik virtual
> machine.  Dalvik does depend on the Linux kernel to talk to the
> hardware, but Linux very much is not a part of Android, at least from

Android is a Linux OS kernal plus a  virtual machine  which supports GUI  services  and a JIT compiler in law suites charged by Oracles now. 

A different set of shell tool to write some  AP is not 
a new OS. 

It can be called a new IDE which supports manny services not well maintained by the  free linux 
contributors in a loosely unorganized way. 
 
> the developers' and end users' points of view.  Linux is just not a part
> of the user experience at all.  It is true that Dalvik can call into
> native linux code, but native linux applications typically aren't a part
> of the Android user experience.
> 
> Thus you can't just install any JVM on android.  Thus cpython or jython
> just isn't part of it.  For one I don't know of any sun-compatible JVM
> that has been ported to ARM.  For two, there aren't any hooks into the
> Android UI APIs even if you could get it running.
> 
> Android is even being ported to the QNX kernel by the Blackberry folks,
> so they can have android compatibility on next-generation blackberries
> that run their own native OS.
> 
> > The memory systems in mobile phones are different from PCs. This is
> > the current situation in the consumer electronics sector.
> 


> I do not understand what you are saying, or at least why you are saying
> this.  But I don't understand most of your posts.

You can use VMware like techniques to emulate another OS
to support AP of different formats. This is not new at 
all. 
i

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[semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Martin Schöön <martin.schoon@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 20:58 +0000
  Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-02-15 23:17 +0000
  Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-02-15 15:36 -0800
  Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? geremy condra <debatem1@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 18:19 -0800
    Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-15 18:38 -0800
    Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-15 18:38 -0800
      Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-02-15 20:26 -0700
        Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-16 06:53 -0800
        Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-16 06:53 -0800
          Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 08:22 -0700
            Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-16 17:38 +0000
              Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-16 17:50 +0000
              Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-02-16 18:45 -0700
            Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-16 21:25 -0800
              Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 18:51 -0700
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-17 20:51 -0800
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2012-02-17 23:05 -0600
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-17 20:51 -0800
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Matej Cepl <mcepl@redhat.com> - 2012-02-19 00:45 +0100
              Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-02-19 04:46 +1100
              Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-02-18 17:36 -0700
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-18 21:58 -0800
                Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-18 21:58 -0800
              Re: [OT]: Smartphones and Python? Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanmichel@sequans.com> - 2012-02-20 12:53 +0100
            Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-02-16 21:25 -0800
            Re: [semi OT]: Smartphones and Python? Matej Cepl <mcepl@redhat.com> - 2012-02-19 00:41 +0100

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