Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #2323

Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler

Path csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <python-python-list@m.gmane.org>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.001
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'url:github': 0.09; 'looked': 0.10; 'pm,': 0.11; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'bytecode': 0.16; 'compiler,': 0.16; 'cpython,': 0.16; 'latter,': 0.16; 'pypy': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'think?': 0.16; 'this?': 0.18; 'figure': 0.18; 'project,': 0.20; 'code,': 0.20; 'jan': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'convert': 0.22; 'subject:code': 0.23; 'uses.': 0.23; 'version': 0.25; "i'm": 0.26; 'noticed': 0.29; 'depends': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; 'list': 0.30; 'wasting': 0.31; "can't": 0.31; 'actual': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'uses': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.35; 'boost': 0.35; 'think': 0.36; 'some': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'useful': 0.37; 'less': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'help': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'how': 0.39; 'would': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'further': 0.62; 'ready': 0.63; 'believe': 0.66; 'concept,': 0.84; 'comparable': 0.91
X-Injected-Via-Gmane http://gmane.org/
To python-list@python.org
From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler
Date Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:52:33 -0400
References <4j7lp.5204$sS4.1784@newsfe11.iad>
Mime-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding 7bit
X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host rain.gmane.org
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9
In-Reply-To <4j7lp.5204$sS4.1784@newsfe11.iad>
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.12
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.58.1301619169.2990.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 26
NNTP-Posting-Host 82.94.164.166
X-Trace 1301619170 news.xs4all.nl 81481 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:51173
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2323

Show key headers only | View raw

On 3/31/2011 6:33 PM, Rouslan Korneychuk wrote:
> I was looking at the list of bytecode instructions that Python uses and
> I noticed how much it looked like assembly. So I figured it can't be to
> hard to convert this to actual machine code, to get at least a small
> boost in speed.
>
> And so I whipped up a proof of concept, available at
> https://github.com/Rouslan/nativecompile
>
> I'm aware that PyPy already has a working JIT compiler, but I figure it
> will be a long time before they have a version of Python that is ready
> for everybody to use, so this could be useful in the mean time.

I believe PyPy folk think it ready now, at least for some uses. 
Speedwise, it is more or less is now comparable to CPython, winning some 
benchmarks, losing others.
...
> What do people think? Would I be wasting my time going further with this?

Depends on whether your goal is personal (learning, fun, use) or 
usefulness to others. For the latter, you *might* do better to help with 
an existing project, such as Cython or Dufour's ShedSkin.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Rouslan Korneychuk <rouslank@msn.com> - 2011-03-31 18:33 -0400
  Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2011-04-01 02:05 +0200
  Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-03-31 20:52 -0400
  Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-01 12:57 +0000
    Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2011-04-01 17:45 +0200
      Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-02 10:04 +0000
        Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2011-04-02 12:30 +0200
          Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler John Nagle <nagle@animats.com> - 2011-04-02 12:05 -0700
            Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-02 14:32 -0700
            Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2011-04-02 19:12 -0500
  Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Rouslan Korneychuk <rouslank@msn.com> - 2011-04-01 15:31 -0400

csiph-web