Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'url:github': 0.09; 'looked': 0.10; 'pm,': 0.11; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'bytecode': 0.16; 'compiler,': 0.16; 'cpython,': 0.16; 'latter,': 0.16; 'pypy': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'think?': 0.16; 'this?': 0.18; 'figure': 0.18; 'project,': 0.20; 'code,': 0.20; 'jan': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'convert': 0.22; 'subject:code': 0.23; 'uses.': 0.23; 'version': 0.25; "i'm": 0.26; 'noticed': 0.29; 'depends': 0.29; 'least': 0.30; 'list': 0.30; 'wasting': 0.31; "can't": 0.31; 'actual': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'uses': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.35; 'boost': 0.35; 'think': 0.36; 'some': 0.37; 'machine': 0.37; 'useful': 0.37; 'less': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'help': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'how': 0.39; 'would': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'further': 0.62; 'ready': 0.63; 'believe': 0.66; 'concept,': 0.84; 'comparable': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: a basic bytecode to machine code compiler Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:52:33 -0400 References: <4j7lp.5204$sS4.1784@newsfe11.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 In-Reply-To: <4j7lp.5204$sS4.1784@newsfe11.iad> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1301619170 news.xs4all.nl 81481 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:51173 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2323 On 3/31/2011 6:33 PM, Rouslan Korneychuk wrote: > I was looking at the list of bytecode instructions that Python uses and > I noticed how much it looked like assembly. So I figured it can't be to > hard to convert this to actual machine code, to get at least a small > boost in speed. > > And so I whipped up a proof of concept, available at > https://github.com/Rouslan/nativecompile > > I'm aware that PyPy already has a working JIT compiler, but I figure it > will be a long time before they have a version of Python that is ready > for everybody to use, so this could be useful in the mean time. I believe PyPy folk think it ready now, at least for some uses. Speedwise, it is more or less is now comparable to CPython, winning some benchmarks, losing others. ... > What do people think? Would I be wasting my time going further with this? Depends on whether your goal is personal (learning, fun, use) or usefulness to others. For the latter, you *might* do better to help with an existing project, such as Cython or Dufour's ShedSkin. -- Terry Jan Reedy