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Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

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From Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu>
Subject Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"
Date Mon, 06 Jan 2014 21:42:34 -0500
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On 1/6/2014 6:24 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
>> Terry Reedy <tjreedy <at> udel.edu> writes:
>>>
>>> On 1/6/2014 11:29 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>>>
>>>> People don't use? According to available figures, there are more
>> downloads of
>>>> Python 3 than downloads of Python 2 (Windows installers, mostly):
>>>> http://www.python.org/webstats/
>>>
>>> While I would like the claim to be true, I do not see 2 versus 3
>>> downloads on that page. Did you mean another link?
>>
>> Just click on a recent month, scroll down to the "Total URLs By kB"
>> table, and compute the sum of the largest numbers for each Python
>> version.
>
> Here's what I see there (expanding on what I said in the other post,
> which was based on one table further up, URLs by hit count) for
> December:
>
> 3.3.3: 1214571
> - amd64 627672
> - win32 586899
> 2.7.6: 1049096
> - win32 607972
> - amd64 441124

Earlier today, I was guessing 1000000 Python programmers. I do not know 
how downloads translates to programmers, but I may have been a bit low.

> The next highest number is 167K downloads, so I'm going to ignore
> their figures as they won't make more than 15% difference in these
> stats. This is 2263667 total downloads of the current versions of
> Python, 46% 2.7.6 and 54% 3.3.3. That's not incredibly significant
> statistically, but certainly it disproves the notion that 3.x isn't
> used at all.

Last February:
1 553203 0.82% /ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.msi
2 498926 0.74% /ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.msi
3 336601 0.50% /ftp/python/3.3.0/python-3.3.0.amd64.msi
4 241796 0.36% /ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.amd64.msi

What has really increased are the amd64 numbers. I am pleased to see 
that the bug-fix releases get downloaded so heavily.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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