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Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"

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Date 2014-01-06 15:32 -0600
Subject Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3"
From Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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>> Really?  If people are using binary with "well-defined ascii-encoded
>> tidbits", they're doing something wrong.  Perhaps you think escape
>> characters "\n" are "well defined tidbits", but YOU WOULD BE WRONG.
>> The purpose of binary is to keep things raw.  WTF?
>
> If you want to participate in this discussion, do so.  Calling people
> strange, arrogant, and fools with no technical content is just rude. Typing
> "YOU WOULD BE WRONG" in all caps doesn't count as technical content.

Ned -- IF YOU'RE A REAL PERSON -- you will see that several words
prior to that declaration, you'll find (or be able to arrange) the
proposition: "Escape characters are well-defined tidbits of binary
data is FALSE".

Now that is a technical point that i'm saying is simply the "way
things are" coming from the mass of experience held by the OS
community and the C programming community which is responsible for
much of the world's computer systems.  Do you have an argument against
it, or do you piss off and argue against anything I say?? Perhaps I
said it too loudly, and I take responsibility for that, but don't
claim I'm not making a technical point which seems to be at the heart
of all the confusion regarding python/python3 and str/unicode/bytes.

mark

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Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-06 07:10 -0800
  Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-07 04:27 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-01-06 10:34 -0800
      Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-07 11:42 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 13:30 -0600
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-06 19:36 +0000
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 13:44 -0600
      Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-01-07 11:54 +1100
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-01-06 16:14 -0500
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 15:23 -0600
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2014-01-06 15:32 -0600
    Re: "More About Unicode in Python 2 and 3" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-01-07 10:03 +1100

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