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Re: Am I not seeing the Error?

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Date Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:56:45 -0400
Subject Re: Am I not seeing the Error?
From Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com>
To Roy Smith <roy@panix.com>
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On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> wrote:
> I can't quite sort out the multiple quoting levels, but somebody said:
>
>>>> Programming like that is called trolling. A programmer that uses
>>>> trolling is called a troll. A troll can also refer to such a line
>>>> of code itself. My scripts contain a lot of trolls. It is easier
>>>> for me to read trolls than "typical" coding styles.
>
> Please tell me this is all just an elaborate joke.

I was thinking something similar Roy.  Devyn, you may think you code
differently, but you don't.  You have a half of dozen people trying to
show you how your style causes confusion between what you think you
are writing and what you actually coded.  There is plenty of room in
coding for personal expression, but what you call 'trolling' is not
that.  If you like semicolons, use another language that needs them.
I think you think it is some version of premature optimization.  Since
you are a novice at the language, stick with the standards, and learn
to embrace them.  Ultimately standard coding styles has nothing to do
with code optimization.  It has to do with readability.  Although this
is a small example, you can see that if several people get involved
debugging it, the first thing that gets in the way is your
non-standard coding style.  If you want to code alone your whole life,
do as you like.  But the time spent reading and fixing code in the
lifetime of any useful software system is greater than the time spent
creating the original code.
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list



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Joel Goldstick
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Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-11 03:33 +0100
  Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-08-10 22:43 -0400
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-11 03:47 +0100
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 08:33 -0400
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 08:20 -0500
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-08-12 10:01 -0400
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 10:04 -0400
      Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-08-12 11:47 -0400
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 12:56 -0400
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 18:19 +0100
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 16:16 -0400
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 16:34 -0400
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2013-08-12 16:35 -0400
        Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-08-13 09:19 +0100
          Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-13 08:50 +0000
            Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Devyn Collier Johnson <devyncjohnson@gmail.com> - 2013-08-13 06:31 -0400
            Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2013-08-13 13:11 +0100
            Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-08-13 12:12 -0400
            Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-08-13 19:55 -0600
          Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-08-13 13:55 +0000
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 10:37 -0500
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Zachary Ware <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com> - 2013-08-12 10:47 -0500
  Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-11 08:28 +0000
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Joshua Landau <joshua@landau.ws> - 2013-08-11 11:18 +0100
    Re: Am I not seeing the Error? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-08-11 09:27 -0400

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