Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.python > #100709

Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status)

Path csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status)
Date Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:57:17 -0700
Lines 26
Message-ID <mailman.47.1450742279.2237.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
References <mailman.4.1450632635.2237.python-list@python.org> <3883651.fOIMIIEhYO@PointedEars.de> <mailman.7.1450648598.2237.python-list@python.org> <2062582.Z8LLNUJk5W@PointedEars.de> <CALwzid=kjCWng_ZoOmS_+LP9m7oD9hMRY9y=qJ5=R1v=+nH8HA@mail.gmail.com> <85oadj1pta.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <mailman.42.1450732615.2237.python-list@python.org> <slrnn7gsqh.co6.jon+usenet@wintry.unequivocal.co.uk> <567887f2$0$1606$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <slrnn7h2lu.co6.jon+usenet@wintry.unequivocal.co.uk>
Mime-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-Trace news.uni-berlin.de YP1TVdcVQo0zPfrWy856fg/6bFRkQsIgfbC05P3yc7ZQ==
Return-Path <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.003
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'context': 0.05; '21,': 0.07; 'derived': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'subject:error': 0.11; 'headers': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'impractical': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'threading,': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; ';-)': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'suggested': 0.20; 'meant': 0.22; 'fixing': 0.22; 'bit': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'thread,': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'users.': 0.31; 'posting': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'suit': 0.33; 'changing': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'i.e.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'shared': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'clients': 0.61; 'between': 0.65; 'subject': 0.70; 'sounds': 0.76; 'fortunately': 0.84; 'subject:status': 0.84; 'threading"': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=yDGG4devetT2SAkwIujf2X60ik5ExdShi1VbwSInGk4=; b=qA/5koiMJX07ibevtK8qhnTxHua7o9qEYofq9ykF+XcUJGWran1CDt1gjj30jIxzlY GuzjqM6iom4SufRzqj/jfPOj32pq5mIaw10vRx8HoRs9XDrzQhb4LK+IW+9lwXM3+Pfy UhDIyMXx5MNfBWz7Cn8LI0Yu0MBdemZ2FsmJfEIC7FHnue/G4A+0F9qQ8PDpFD/ik4Mh +uh5O2A40ogGfzY1sZVdFRtythIpT0PPGAk3Gd7aT/V4c2TzuA2mwycut/ZbpOsQNgG/ ZtLXUlpif6tyi2qB0x8bK2ZWDqoz6/0gOX/D6aYTmGe3aodTpiorynbc1McrUIFhzt0M MYEw==
X-Received by 10.107.185.6 with SMTP id j6mr16752680iof.111.1450742276566; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:57:56 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To <slrnn7h2lu.co6.jon+usenet@wintry.unequivocal.co.uk>
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.20+
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:100709

Show key headers only | View raw


On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Jon Ribbens
<jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2015-12-21, Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> wrote:
>> The whole purpose of the change of subject is to indicate in a human-visible
>> way that the subject of the thread has changed, i.e. that it is a new
>> thread derived from the old one. If that breaks threading, oh well, it
>> breaks threading.
>
> That sounds a bit confused - if the *intention* of changing the
> subject line is to create a new thread, then breaking the thread
> is not "breaking threading" ;-)
>
>>> And, yes, fixing the mail clients of "everybody else in the world"
>>> might be a lovely idea but it is a little impractical to implement.
>>
>> Less impractical than insisting that "everybody else in the world" must
>> change their posting habits to suit those using broken mail clients.
>
> Fortunately I haven't suggested that.

Yes, I only requested that people not change the subject headers for
trivial reasons, by which I meant things like fixing typos (as in the
subject header change that brought about this thread). I also only
intended my request in the context of this forum, which is shared
between Usenet and mailing list users. Changing the subject header to
indicate a change in subject is, of course, fine.

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

How to ignore error with anon-zero exit status Ganesh Pal <ganesh1pal@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 23:00 +0530
  Ignore error with non-zero exit status (was: How to ignore error with anon-zero exit status) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-20 22:22 +0100
    Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status (was: How to ignore error with anon-zero exit status) Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 08:56 +1100
      Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-20 23:46 +0100
        Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 10:09 +1100
          Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 08:51 +0100
            Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 12:58 +0000
              Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 14:19 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 00:23 +1100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 15:05 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 01:11 +1100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 15:19 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 16:07 +0000
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 23:30 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2015-12-21 11:30 -0500
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 23:27 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-22 10:32 +1100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-12-21 18:53 -0500
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-22 13:17 +0100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 11:05 +1100
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 17:17 -0700
                Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 11:25 +1100
        Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:30 -0700
        Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2015-12-22 07:58 +1100
        Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 14:16 -0700
          Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 21:44 +0000
            Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 23:55 +0100
            Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-22 10:14 +1100
              Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2015-12-21 23:24 +0000
                Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 16:57 -0700
                Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-12-22 09:56 -0600
              Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Cameron Simpson <cs@zip.com.au> - 2015-12-22 14:36 +1100
              Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field Random832 <random832@fastmail.com> - 2015-12-21 23:22 -0500
                Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-22 13:26 +0100
              Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-22 15:17 +0000
                Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 08:28 -0700
                Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-22 22:32 +0000
        Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-21 16:55 -0500
    Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status (was: How to ignore error with anon-zero exit status) Ganesh Pal <ganesh1pal@gmail.com> - 2015-12-21 08:22 +0530
      Re: Ignore error with non-zero exit status Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-12-21 08:54 +0100

csiph-web