Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ian Kelly Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Meaning and purpose of the Subject field (was: Ignore error with non-zero exit status) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:57:17 -0700 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <3883651.fOIMIIEhYO@PointedEars.de> <2062582.Z8LLNUJk5W@PointedEars.de> <85oadj1pta.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <567887f2$0$1606$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de YP1TVdcVQo0zPfrWy856fg/6bFRkQsIgfbC05P3yc7ZQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.03; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'context': 0.05; '21,': 0.07; 'derived': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'subject:error': 0.11; 'headers': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'impractical': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:non': 0.16; 'threading,': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; ';-)': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'suggested': 0.20; 'meant': 0.22; 'fixing': 0.22; 'bit': 0.23; 'dec': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'thread,': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'users.': 0.31; 'posting': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'suit': 0.33; 'changing': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'i.e.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'shared': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'subject:with': 0.40; 'clients': 0.61; 'between': 0.65; 'subject': 0.70; 'sounds': 0.76; 'fortunately': 0.84; 'subject:status': 0.84; 'threading"': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=yDGG4devetT2SAkwIujf2X60ik5ExdShi1VbwSInGk4=; b=qA/5koiMJX07ibevtK8qhnTxHua7o9qEYofq9ykF+XcUJGWran1CDt1gjj30jIxzlY GuzjqM6iom4SufRzqj/jfPOj32pq5mIaw10vRx8HoRs9XDrzQhb4LK+IW+9lwXM3+Pfy UhDIyMXx5MNfBWz7Cn8LI0Yu0MBdemZ2FsmJfEIC7FHnue/G4A+0F9qQ8PDpFD/ik4Mh +uh5O2A40ogGfzY1sZVdFRtythIpT0PPGAk3Gd7aT/V4c2TzuA2mwycut/ZbpOsQNgG/ ZtLXUlpif6tyi2qB0x8bK2ZWDqoz6/0gOX/D6aYTmGe3aodTpiorynbc1McrUIFhzt0M MYEw== X-Received: by 10.107.185.6 with SMTP id j6mr16752680iof.111.1450742276566; Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:57:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:100709 On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2015-12-21, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> The whole purpose of the change of subject is to indicate in a human-visible >> way that the subject of the thread has changed, i.e. that it is a new >> thread derived from the old one. If that breaks threading, oh well, it >> breaks threading. > > That sounds a bit confused - if the *intention* of changing the > subject line is to create a new thread, then breaking the thread > is not "breaking threading" ;-) > >>> And, yes, fixing the mail clients of "everybody else in the world" >>> might be a lovely idea but it is a little impractical to implement. >> >> Less impractical than insisting that "everybody else in the world" must >> change their posting habits to suit those using broken mail clients. > > Fortunately I haven't suggested that. Yes, I only requested that people not change the subject headers for trivial reasons, by which I meant things like fixing typos (as in the subject header change that brought about this thread). I also only intended my request in the context of this forum, which is shared between Usenet and mailing list users. Changing the subject header to indicate a change in subject is, of course, fine.