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| From | Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> |
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| Subject | Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file |
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:39 AM, Jon Ribbens
<jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2016-02-22, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Jon Ribbens
>><jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Weeeeeell, I have a lot of sympathy for that point, but on the other
>>> hand the whole concept of UUIDs ("import uuid") is predicated on the
>>> opposite assumption.
>>
>> Not quite opposite. Ethan is asserting that you cannot be *certain*
>> without actually checking the FS; the point of UUIDs is that you can
>> be fairly *confident* that there won't be a collision. There is a
>> nonzero probability of accidental collisions, and if an attacker is
>> deliberately trying to _force_ a collision, it's most definitely
>> possible. So both views are correct.
>
> I was under the impression that the point of UUIDs is that you can be
> *so* confident that there won't be a collision that for all practical
> purposes it's indistinguishable from being certain.
Maybe, if everyone's cooperating. I'm not sure how they fare in the
face of malice though.
ChrisA
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Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-02-22 18:17 +0000
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 05:25 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-02-22 18:39 +0000
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2016-02-22 20:48 +0200
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-02-23 10:37 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-02-23 00:08 +0000
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 11:18 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-02-23 00:26 +0000
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 11:33 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Jon Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.co.uk> - 2016-02-23 00:44 +0000
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 11:56 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:04 +1100
Re: Make a unique filesystem path, without creating the file Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-22 11:22 -0800
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