Re: replacing dict with an OrderedDict

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Subject	Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict
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On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Ulrich Eckhardt
<ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> wrote:
> There is another dependency and that I'd call a logical dependency. This
> occurs when e.g. test X tests for an API presence and test Y tests the API
> behaviour. In other words, Y has no chance to succeed if X already failed.
> Unfortunately, there is no way to express this relation, there is no
> "@unittest.depends(test_X)" to decorate test_Y with (Not yet!). Each test
> would be the root of a tree of tests that it depends on. If a dependency
> fails already, you can either skip the tree or at least mark the following
> test failures as implicit failures, so that you can easily distinguish them
> from the root cause.

I can see where that could be useful.  On the other hand, if such a
decorator were included in unittest, I can already envision people
abusing it to explicitly enshrine their operational dependencies,
maybe even taking it as encouragement to write their tests in that
fashion.

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replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-06 10:48 +0100
  Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 22:43 +1100
    Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-06 14:36 +0100
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 04:01 +1100
        Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-07 00:45 +0000
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 10:20 -0700
        Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-07 00:49 +0000
          Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 12:21 +1100
          Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 18:24 -0700
            Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Eelco <hoogendoorn.eelco@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 14:03 -0800
              Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-09 23:10 +1100
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-09 14:16 +0100
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 23:31 +1100
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-10 18:21 +0100
        Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-01-09 09:35 -0500
          Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-01-09 14:52 +0000
          Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-09 17:59 +0100
            Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-09 10:30 -0700
            Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-01-09 20:05 -0500
              Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-01-09 23:21 -0500
              Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 23:22 +1100
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-01-10 09:05 -0500
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-11 02:57 +1100
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-01-10 21:47 -0500
                Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Tim Wintle <tim.wintle@teamrubber.com> - 2012-01-10 15:45 +0000
            Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-10 23:46 +1100
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Lie Ryan <lie.1296@gmail.com> - 2012-01-07 04:42 +1100
  Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-01-06 12:44 +0100
    Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-06 14:40 +0100
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 09:06 -0700
        Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-01-08 20:58 -0800
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 09:07 -0700
      Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:38 +0000
    Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ulrich Eckhardt <ulrich.eckhardt@dominolaser.com> - 2012-01-18 11:29 +0100
  Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-01-06 06:13 -0800
  Re: replacing __dict__ with an OrderedDict Arnaud Delobelle <arnodel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-06 21:32 +0000

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