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Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter

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Subject Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter
Date Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:09:00 +0000
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On 21/12/2013 11:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:26:10 -0600, Brian Bruggeman wrote:
>
>> Is this something that would be pep-able?
>
> I don't know. What is it? I'm sure your code is the most fabulous,
> awesome and brilliant thing since Grace Hopper came up with FORmula
> TRANslation back in the 1950s, but my browser has over eighty tabs open
> at the moment, give me a reason why I ought to open one more.
>

I was under the impression that she was more associated with COBOL but 
never mind.

>
>> https://gist.github.com/brianbruggeman/8061774
>
> If you aren't willing or able to spend a sentence or three explaining
> what your code does, what need it fulfils, and why it ought to be
> included in Python, you're going to have real bad time trying to persuade
> the hard-nosed, conservative core developers. Trust me, I know what I am
> talking about, I am the author of a successful PEP:
>
> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0450/
>
> and that was for something which already had at least two of the most
> respected core developers' support before I even started. So before you
> go to the effort of writing a PEP, how about you try to justify your
> proposal here?
>

Nail struck firmly on head I reckon.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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@property simultaneous setter and getter Brian Bruggeman <brian.m.bruggeman@gmail.com> - 2013-12-20 15:26 -0600
  Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-12-21 11:31 +0000
    Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-12-21 12:09 +0000
    Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2013-12-21 11:59 -0500
    Hopper and Backus (was Re: @property simultaneous setter and getter) Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-12-21 16:42 -0500

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