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Re: .format vs. %

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From Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com>
Date 2012-01-03 15:02 -0500
Subject Re: .format vs. %
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
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> "one obvious way" != "only one way"

Which way is the obvious way? Why is it obvious?

For me, sprintf-formatting is "obviously" easier to use (less typing)
unless you're pulling values from a dictionary or object, or already
have all the variables stored in a dict you can pass in with **d.

-- Devin

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure it's true that "there are no plans to do so in the
>> foreseeable future."  According to the release notes from Python 3.0,
>> % formatting was supposed to be deprecated in Python 3.1.
>
>
> Eric Smith wrote (from a thread on pydev in 02-2011):
>> The last thread on this I have a reference to was in September 2009. I
>> think was basically the outcome:
>> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-September/092399.html
>>
>> So there will be no deprecation, just a gradual shift to PEP 3101
>> formatting.
>
>
> Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>> Maybe there was a discussion on py-dev
>> where it was decided that % formatting would not be deprecated after
>> all (in which case the misleading "obsolete" note really ought to be
>> removed from the documentation).
>
>
> Agreed that this is a documentation bug.
>
>
> Ian Kelly wrote:
>>
>> The reason for deprecating it is because Python currently has no fewer
>> than three mechanisms for string formatting (not even including
>> ordinary string concatenation), which according to the Zen of Python
>> is two too many.
>
>
> "one obvious way" != "only one way"
>
> ~Ethan~
> --
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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        Re: .format vs. % Miki Tebeka <miki.tebeka@gmail.com> - 2012-01-01 13:11 -0800
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      Re: .format vs. % Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2011-12-31 19:43 +0000
      Re: .format vs. % Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-12-31 16:09 -0500
  Re: .format vs. % Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-01-02 14:00 -0800
    Re: .format vs. % Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-02 17:59 -0800
      Re: .format vs. % Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-03 03:52 +0000
        Re: .format vs. % Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-02 22:58 -0700
          Re: .format vs. % Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-03 06:15 +0000
            Re: .format vs. % Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 01:16 -0700
            Re: .format vs. % Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-01-03 05:26 -0800
            Re: .format vs. % Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-01-03 11:38 -0800
            Re: .format vs. % Devin Jeanpierre <jeanpierreda@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 15:02 -0500
            Re: .format vs. % Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-01-03 12:16 -0800
        Re: .format vs. % Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 04:55 -0600
        Re: .format vs. % Stefan Krah <stefan-usenet@bytereef.org> - 2012-01-03 12:47 +0100
          Re: .format vs. % Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-01-03 13:58 +0000
            Re: .format vs. % Stefan Krah <stefan-usenet@bytereef.org> - 2012-01-03 15:17 +0100
              Re: .format vs. % Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-01-03 15:15 +0000
                Re: .format vs. % Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-01-03 15:24 +0000
          Re: .format vs. % Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-01-03 19:46 +0000
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            Re: .format vs. % Stefan Krah <stefan-usenet@bytereef.org> - 2012-01-03 21:53 +0100
        Re: .format vs. % Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 00:04 +1100
  Re: .format vs. % Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2012-01-02 17:51 -0800
    Re: .format vs. % Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-01-03 03:47 +0000
  Re: .format vs. % 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-03 07:47 -0800
    Re: .format vs. % alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-01-03 18:26 -0800
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        Re: .format vs. % alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-01-04 16:23 -0800
          Re: .format vs. % 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-01-04 17:41 -0800

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