Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug.': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '3.0,': 0.09; 'deprecated': 0.09; 'dict': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'am,': 0.12; 'stored': 0.13; '8:26': 0.16; 'formatting.': 0.16; 'outcome:': 0.16; 'pydev': 0.16; 'subject:vs.': 0.16; 'way"': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'jan': 0.19; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'maybe': 0.21; 'discussion': 0.22; 'wrote': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'dictionary': 0.23; 'formatting': 0.23; 'pep': 0.23; 'way?': 0.23; 'string': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'object,': 0.24; '(in': 0.26; "i'm": 0.26; 'url:mailman': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'pass': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.29; 'fewer': 0.30; 'kelly': 0.30; 'shift': 0.30; '2009.': 0.31; 'values': 0.32; 'tue,': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'received:209.85.160': 0.33; 'eric': 0.34; 'too': 0.34; '(not': 0.35; 'notes': 0.35; 'received:209.85.160.46': 0.35; 'received:mail- pw0-f46.google.com': 0.35; 'supposed': 0.35; 'unless': 0.35; 'url:python': 0.36; '(from': 0.37; 'thread': 0.37; 'url:pipermail': 0.37; 'variables': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'reference': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'think': 0.37; 'plans': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'easier': 0.38; 'url:org': 0.39; 'why': 0.39; "it's": 0.40; 'received:209': 0.40; 'according': 0.61; '2012': 0.67; '"there': 0.84; '3101': 0.84; 'many.': 0.84; 'zen': 0.84; '"one': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=96AW3yaju2J0oynO0tSrWTdLBnhlFV7xlWBgbPq9TaQ=; b=PuHtCXEscSNYNa+fvvWopogrZ9YXlZdcYKXGPd9M8jpw4OZAJ+Tms+mBTCazGzN00Z UZtAxlymAGaprWk9qW/e1xe7NM3/C7L+JxC1WVVwhwG4m+NbP2oWaNkkmkJU00p2Y7fb l/5Lrj9owXgqkRM3FLgVx97oSTVlfrNFWQzKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4F030221.3050902@stoneleaf.us> References: <5642862.375.1325355574622.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbhx10> <4EFF559E.1050408@gmail.com> <4f027b79$0$29880$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4f029d1e$0$29880$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4F030221.3050902@stoneleaf.us> From: Devin Jeanpierre Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:02:47 -0500 Subject: Re: .format vs. % To: Ethan Furman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 52 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1325621011 news.xs4all.nl 6984 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33786 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:18445 > "one obvious way" !=3D "only one way" Which way is the obvious way? Why is it obvious? For me, sprintf-formatting is "obviously" easier to use (less typing) unless you're pulling values from a dictionary or object, or already have all the variables stored in a dict you can pass in with **d. -- Devin On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> I'm not sure it's true that "there are no plans to do so in the >> foreseeable future." =C2=A0According to the release notes from Python 3.= 0, >> % formatting was supposed to be deprecated in Python 3.1. > > > Eric Smith wrote (from a thread on pydev in 02-2011): >> The last thread on this I have a reference to was in September 2009. I >> think was basically the outcome: >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-September/092399.html >> >> So there will be no deprecation, just a gradual shift to PEP 3101 >> formatting. > > > Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> Maybe there was a discussion on py-dev >> where it was decided that % formatting would not be deprecated after >> all (in which case the misleading "obsolete" note really ought to be >> removed from the documentation). > > > Agreed that this is a documentation bug. > > > Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> The reason for deprecating it is because Python currently has no fewer >> than three mechanisms for string formatting (not even including >> ordinary string concatenation), which according to the Zen of Python >> is two too many. > > > "one obvious way" !=3D "only one way" > > ~Ethan~ > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list