Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue

From	Dave Angel <davea@davea.name>
Subject	Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue
Date	2013-09-04 12:38 +0000
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On 4/9/2013 07:38, Ferrous Cranus wrote:

> Στις 4/9/2013 2:26 μμ, ο/η Dave Angel έγραψε:

>>
>>>>
>>>> So first in the interpreter, I ran
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> f = open("junk.txt", "w")
>>>>
>>>>>>>> f.write(b'\xb6\xe3\xed\xf9\xf3\xf4\xef\xfc\xed\xef\xec\xe1 \xf3\xf5\xf3\xf4\xde\xec\xe1\xf4\xef\xf2\n')
>>>>
>>>>>>>> f.close()
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
         <snip>
>> So since the tets.py file was a sidetrack, I just ran those three lines
>> in the interpreter.
>>
> I'm still consused about this.
>
> say we save those 3 lines inside junk.txt and we save it by default as utf-8
>
> when we 'file junk.txt'
>
> what will file respond with?

junk2.txt: ASCII text

>
> filename's charset?
>
> or
>
> will it llook at the bystering within to decide what encoding it uses?
>

'file' isn't magic.  And again, it doesn't look at the filename, it
looks at the content.  What heuristics it uses, I don't know, but it has
hundreds of them.   ( I wish you hadn't confused the issue by using the
same name junk.txt for an entirely different purpose) When it looks at a
file like this one, it looks only at the bytes within it. In this
case, the instance of 'file' on my machine decides it's an ASCII file.

if I add an silly shebang line

#!/usr/tmp/pyttthon

it says
junk2.txt: a /usr/tmp/pyttthon script, ASCII text executable

It doesn't know it's python, it just trusts the shebang line.  And it
identifies it as ASCII, not utf-8, since there are no non-ascii
characters in it.  It certainly does not try to interpret the b'xxxx'
byte string by Python syntax rules.

-- 
DaveA

Thread

UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 09:41 +0300
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 16:53 +1000
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:02 +0300
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:18 +0300
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-08-31 09:25 +0200
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:58 +0300
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 11:31 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-31 11:28 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 15:58 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 16:07 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-31 15:44 +0000
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 23:50 -0700
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 17:12 +1000
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 10:23 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 17:28 +1000
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 10:35 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 16:59 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 15:40 +0000
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 20:51 +1000
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-01 08:35 +0000
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 17:08 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 17:25 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 15:36 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 19:10 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 01:23 +0300
              Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 23:14 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 07:16 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 11:38 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 14:49 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 12:21 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 18:05 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 18:28 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-04 01:35 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-04 11:26 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-04 14:38 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-04 12:38 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-04 17:29 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-05 00:17 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-05 03:07 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 13:59 +1000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-05 05:28 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-09-02 12:56 +0100
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 12:24 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-09-02 15:44 +0100
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-09-03 08:23 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-04 10:01 +0200
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-09-04 07:08 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-03 08:45 +1000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-03 14:56 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-02 20:49 -0400

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