Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue

Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Date	2013-09-03 08:23 -0700
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Subject	Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue
From	wxjmfauth@gmail.com

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Le lundi 2 septembre 2013 16:44:34 UTC+2, MRAB a écrit :
> On 02/09/2013 13:24, Dave Angel wrote:
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> > On 2/9/2013 07:56, MRAB wrote:
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> >
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> >> On 02/09/2013 12:38, Dave Angel wrote:
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> >
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> >     <snip>
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> >
> 
> >>> ¶γνωστοόνομα συστήματος
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> >>>
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> >>> I don't have a clue what it might be;  it's not English, and I don't
> 
> >>> know whatever language it may be in.
> 
> >>>
> 
> >> You don't recognise Greek?
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> >
> 
> > I recognize most of those as Greek characters, but as I said, I don't
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> > know Greek.  And because I can't recognize words, I can't assume it
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> > might not be some other language that uses the same glyphs.
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> >
> 
> I don't know Greek either, and I don't think there's any other language
> 
> that uses the Greek alphabet.
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> 
> 
> >>
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> >>> Does that string make any sense to you?  You may want to try it on your
> 
> >>> own machine, since the email may obscure the encoding.  Or you might
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> >>> want to do the decode using whatever the default encoding is for that
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> >>> server.
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> >>>
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> >>> The Linux 'file' utility thinks this string is in ISO-8859, so you might
> 
> >>> want to try a decode('ISO-8859-1') as well.  (and maybe  ISO-8859-2, -3,
> 
> >>> -4, and -5)
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> >>>
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> >> It's ISO-8859-7 (Greek).
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> >

--------

The Latin alphabet uses Greek lettering.

The Cyrillic alphabet uses Greek lettering.

Greek: One should not confuse modern Greek
with ancient Greek, polytonic Greek full
of diacritics.

Plenty of European languages (~15) based on the Latin
alphabet uses some ancient Greek diacritics.

Now unicode.

Everything is working very smoothly with the endorsed coding
schemes of Unicode.org.

Expectedly it fails (behaves badly) with Python and its 
Flexible Sting Representation, mainly because it relies on
the latin-1 (iso-8859-1) set.

To take the problem the other way, one can take these
linguistic ascpects to illustrate the wrong design of
the FSR.

jmf

Thread

UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 09:41 +0300
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 16:53 +1000
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:02 +0300
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:18 +0300
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2013-08-31 09:25 +0200
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 10:58 +0300
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 11:31 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-31 11:28 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 15:58 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-08-31 16:07 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-08-31 15:44 +0000
  Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-08-31 23:50 -0700
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 17:12 +1000
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 10:23 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 17:28 +1000
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 10:35 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 16:59 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 15:40 +0000
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-01 20:51 +1000
    Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-01 08:35 +0000
      Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 17:08 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 17:25 +0300
        Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 15:36 +0000
          Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-01 19:10 +0300
            Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 01:23 +0300
              Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-01 23:14 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 07:16 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 11:38 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 14:49 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 12:21 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-02 18:05 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 18:28 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos.gr33k@gmail.com> - 2013-09-04 01:35 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-04 11:26 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-04 14:38 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-04 12:38 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-04 17:29 +0300
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-05 00:17 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-05 03:07 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-05 13:59 +1000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-05 05:28 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-09-02 12:56 +0100
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-09-02 12:24 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2013-09-02 15:44 +0100
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-09-03 08:23 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2013-09-04 10:01 +0200
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2013-09-04 07:08 -0700
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-09-03 08:45 +1000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-09-03 14:56 +0000
                Re: UnicodeDecodeError issue Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2013-09-02 20:49 -0400

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