Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations

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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, John Ladasky <ladasky@my-deja.com> wrote:
> I may regret wading into a flame-war, but...

As long as we leave it at that! :)

> I got started with Python in 2002.  I took one look at TKinter, said
> "yuck!", and went searching for something else.  Now, wxPython is a
> bit clunky for a Python programmer because of its strong ties to C++
> -- but that's what I chose, and it has served me well.  I would like
> to see wxPython become the default GUI for our very fine programming
> language.

That's fine and that's your choice. I however don't feel
that "we" (as a community) or they (the python developers)
should make any GUI toolkit the default for Python (let
alone any programming language).

IHMO GUI toolkits are not a feature of the language but
rather a tool (or library) which is compatible in some way
with your language.

Python is a fine language.

So what if some of the code written _in Python_
(libraires, tools, frameworks, whatever) are a bit
poorly written, documented, or are lacking in features ?

Is this Python's fault ? Should it be ? I don't think so.

This is probably the reason for different groups in the first
place (python-dev, python-core-mentoring, python-ideas, etc)
so that there is a clear separation of "what's what".

Can we stop arguing about this now ?

cheers
James

> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>

-- 
-- James Mills
--
-- "Problems are solved by method"

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Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 17:39 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2011-04-13 18:56 -0600
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> - 2011-04-14 11:10 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 18:27 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ryan Kelly <ryan@rfk.id.au> - 2011-04-14 11:29 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 19:10 -0700
      Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ryan Kelly <ryan@rfk.id.au> - 2011-04-14 13:01 +1000
        Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 20:26 -0700
          Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> - 2011-04-14 13:43 +1000
            Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 21:05 -0700
              Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2011-04-13 22:46 -0600
              Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 22:07 -0700
              Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@tysdomain.com> - 2011-04-15 22:27 -0600
                Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2011-04-16 09:06 -0700
          Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 06:40 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2011-04-13 18:47 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ryan Kelly <ryan@rfk.id.au> - 2011-04-14 12:03 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-14 12:26 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-14 03:12 +0000
      Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ryan Kelly <ryan@rfk.id.au> - 2011-04-14 13:23 +1000
      Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations rantingrick <rantingrick@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 20:41 -0700
      Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2011-04-14 01:38 -0400
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> - 2011-04-14 12:03 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2011-04-14 12:27 +1000
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Westley Martínez <anikom15@gmail.com> - 2011-04-13 18:59 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations John Ladasky <ladasky@my-deja.com> - 2011-04-13 22:08 -0700
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations James Mills <prologic@shortcircuit.net.au> - 2011-04-14 15:36 +1000
    Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2011-04-14 06:59 +0000
      Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 05:02 -0700
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-14 18:36 +1000
  Re: Egos, heartlessness, and limitations Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-14 18:41 +0000

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