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| Date | Sun, 19 Aug 2012 01:36:01 +1000 |
| Subject | Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() |
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:07 AM, <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm aware of this (and all the blah blah blah you are > explaining). This always the same song. Memory. > > Let me ask. Is Python an 'american" product for us-users > or is it a tool for everybody [*]? > Is there any reason why non ascii users are somehow penalized > compared to ascii users? Regardless of your own native language, "len" is the name of a popular Python function. And "dict" is a well-used class. Both those names are representable in ASCII, even if every quoted string in your code requires more bytes to store. And memory usage has significance in many other areas, too. CPU cache utilization turns a space saving into a time saving. That's why structure packing still exists, even though member alignment has other advantages. You'd be amazed how many non-USA strings still fit inside seven bits, too. Are you appending a space to something? Splitting on newlines? You'll have lots of strings that are going now to be space-optimized. Of course, the performance gains from shortening some of the strings may be offset by costs when comparing one-byte and multi-byte strings, but presumably that's all been gone into in great detail elsewhere. ChrisA
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How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Charles Jensen <hopefullycharles@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 15:09 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 08:20 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-16 18:47 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-16 19:59 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 10:49 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 14:21 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 11:45 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 11:45 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-17 16:55 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-17 23:30 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 04:10 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:18 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 03:59 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 10:49 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-17 06:30 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 01:09 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 12:27 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 08:07 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 16:25 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 01:36 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:51 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 09:38 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 02:57 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 18:28 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:05 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-08-18 19:34 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:35 +0000
New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-08-19 09:43 +0200
Re: New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 08:56 +0000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 02:24 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-08-19 11:37 +0200
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 03:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 13:33 +0000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 03:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:26 +1000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:14 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-19 08:29 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:59 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 14:46 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 15:48 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 09:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 09:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:48 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 10:51 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 19:09 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 07:50 +1000
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Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 22:18 -0600
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-21 07:48 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 10:51 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:56 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:59 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-19 08:35 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:14 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:30 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:05 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-18 16:09 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-18 23:12 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 09:38 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:33 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 11:50 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 11:20 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:31 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 12:23 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 20:16 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:46 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 17:59 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:30 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 20:45 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:13 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 11:40 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 20:50 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 13:22 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 22:37 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 11:26 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-08-18 19:59 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 07:17 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:46 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 19:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:19 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 19:35 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 13:01 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 20:10 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 13:31 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 22:58 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 08:01 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 01:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 18:24 +1000
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Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 01:54 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 11:46 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 12:31 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 10:51 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Neil Hodgson <nhodgson@iinet.net.au> - 2012-08-21 17:03 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:09 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 01:04 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 13:25 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() DJC <djc@news.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:32 +0200
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:34 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 10:48 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 11:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 19:50 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 17:59 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 23:13 -0700
Abuse of Big Oh notation [was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord()] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 20:15 +0000
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Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-20 11:42 -0700
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Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Piet van Oostrum <piet@vanoostrum.org> - 2012-08-20 17:20 -0400
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