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| From | Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() |
| Date | 2012-08-18 22:37 +0100 |
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On 18/08/2012 21:22, wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote: > Le samedi 18 août 2012 20:40:23 UTC+2, rusi a écrit : >> On Aug 18, 10:59 pm, Steven D'Aprano <steve >> >> +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:07:05 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote: >> >>>> Is there any reason why non ascii users are somehow penalized compared >> >>>> to ascii users? >> >>> >> >>> Of course there is a reason. >> >>> >> >>> If you want to represent 1114111 different characters in a string, as >> >>> Unicode supports, you can't use a single byte per character, or even two >> >>> bytes. That is a fact of basic mathematics. Supporting 1114111 characters >> >>> must be more expensive than supporting 128 of them. >> >>> >> >>> But why should you carry the cost of 4-bytes per character just because >> >>> someday you *might* need a non-BMP character? >> >> >> >> I am reminded of: http://answers.microsoft.com/thread/720108ee-0a9c-4090-b62d-bbd5cb1a7605 >> >> >> >> Original above does not open for me but here's a copy that does: >> >> >> >> http://onceuponatimeinindia.blogspot.in/2009/07/hard-drive-weight-increasing.html > > I thing it's time to leave the discussion and to go to bed. In plain English, duck out cos I'm losing. > > You can take the problem the way you wish, Python 3.3 is "slower" > than Python 3.2. I'll ask for the second time. Provide proof that is acceptable to everybody and not just yourself. > > If you see the present status as an optimisation, I'm condidering > this as a regression. Considering does not equate to proof. Where are the figures which back up your claim? > > I'm pretty sure a pure ucs-4/utf-32 can only be, by nature, > the correct solution. I look forward to seeing your patch on the bug tracker. If and only if you can find something that needs patching, which from the course of this thread I think is highly unlikely. > > To be extreme, tools using pure utf-16 or utf-32 are, at least, > considering all the citizen on this planet in the same way. > > jmf > -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence.
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How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Charles Jensen <hopefullycharles@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 15:09 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 08:20 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-16 18:47 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-16 19:59 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 10:49 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Jerry Hill <malaclypse2@gmail.com> - 2012-08-17 14:21 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 11:45 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 11:45 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-17 16:55 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-17 23:30 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 04:10 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:18 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 03:59 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-17 10:49 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-17 06:30 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 01:09 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 12:27 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 08:07 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 16:25 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 01:36 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 09:51 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 09:38 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 02:57 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 18:28 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:05 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-08-18 19:34 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:35 +0000
New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-08-19 09:43 +0200
Re: New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 08:56 +0000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3, was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 02:24 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-08-19 11:37 +0200
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 03:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 13:33 +0000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 03:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:26 +1000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:14 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-19 08:29 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:59 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 14:46 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 07:09 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 15:48 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 09:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 09:19 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:48 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 10:51 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 19:09 +0100
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 07:50 +1000
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 23:38 -0600
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-20 09:17 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 22:18 -0600
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-21 07:48 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 10:51 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:56 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:59 -0700
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-19 08:35 -0400
Re: New internal string format in 3.3 wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 05:14 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:30 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:05 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-18 16:09 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-18 23:12 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 09:38 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:33 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 11:50 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 11:20 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:31 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 12:23 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 20:16 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:46 -0600
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-18 17:59 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 11:30 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 20:45 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:13 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-18 11:40 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 20:50 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-18 13:22 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-18 22:37 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 11:26 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-08-18 19:59 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 07:17 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 10:46 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 19:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 12:19 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 19:35 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 13:01 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 20:10 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 13:31 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-18 22:58 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 08:01 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 01:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 18:24 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 01:44 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 01:54 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 11:46 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 12:31 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 10:51 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Neil Hodgson <nhodgson@iinet.net.au> - 2012-08-21 17:03 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 06:09 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 01:04 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 13:25 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() DJC <djc@news.invalid> - 2012-08-19 17:32 +0200
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 13:34 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 10:48 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 11:11 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 19:50 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 17:59 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 23:13 -0700
Abuse of Big Oh notation [was Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord()] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 20:15 +0000
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 16:42 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 09:24 +0100
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 09:01 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-21 02:09 +1000
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 11:12 -0600
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-20 12:29 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-20 15:16 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-20 15:20 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-21 09:53 +0000
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-20 11:42 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Ned Deily <nad@acm.org> - 2012-08-20 18:19 -0700
Abuse of subject, was Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation Peter Otten <__peter__@web.de> - 2012-08-21 09:52 +0200
Re: Abuse of subject, was Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-21 10:16 -0700
Re: Abuse of subject, was Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-21 10:16 -0700
Re: Abuse of Big Oh notation wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-20 11:42 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-08-22 20:53 +0200
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 08:42 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-19 19:24 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-20 04:21 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-20 00:44 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-20 05:56 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2012-08-19 23:24 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-20 12:58 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 20:35 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-20 14:07 +1000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() lipska the kat <lipskathekat@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-19 11:13 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-19 20:19 +1000
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Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-08-19 10:33 -0700
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() "Blind Anagram" <noname@nowhere.com> - 2012-08-19 19:04 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-19 14:05 -0400
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable usingord() "Blind Anagram" <noname@nowhere.com> - 2012-08-19 19:18 +0100
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-19 20:31 +0000
Re: How do I display unicode value stored in a string variable using ord() Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-19 17:03 -0400
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