Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.lang.python > #90334

Re: anomaly

Path csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail
Return-Path <rosuav@gmail.com>
X-Original-To python-list@python.org
Delivered-To python-list@mail.python.org
X-Spam-Status OK 0.016
X-Spam-Evidence '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; '"this': 0.03; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'semantic': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'fuzzy': 0.16; 'subclass': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'finished': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'rules': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'earlier': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'resolution': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "skip:' 10": 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'monday,': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'area': 0.37; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'name': 0.63; 'such': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'analysis': 0.75; '2015': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92
DKIM-Signature v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=XB9FJw54J+kEdstiL15f21UjT2gDs7qu0E7lJ6E996s=; b=DXJnIDGlduXsPhWn1AuiIJo5OX2/MPhdAUIoNRIZR/HXcyDgKTZe/u0+ibjwZG4BS+ ngjHCqvRFiZkcXm9NFptXLK2ft45a0005RecIDOUhUBv3HMF+5Xb52J5djC/j195cutU V5fhbd6fQoI4WdHUqIaYB9jzW2mPAEHBXcMyKNkBYjboE5hhswRI+3CoozqThtLI7DZV G2LythkLlvZwv5Aaz/FffZPfC8ircYYVV6Hz+G0iG3BdRLPNY4/Csxe9xy9lTgb6qGOU amhivJD/65R6RkmFzslo8JbGdjcfHZHyem9ppR5wvrUNLXdZwbyni+zt+rocFQJWYPKc cxmw==
MIME-Version 1.0
X-Received by 10.43.39.1 with SMTP id tk1mr8705687icb.26.1431310826321; Sun, 10 May 2015 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To <9f72c817-3127-479a-86b5-132eed7b4f96@googlegroups.com>
References <CAMjeLr--RfnfgWc1hdOcHiEBpq3QwC7SZk-m14wM65JtpbgMLQ@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.318.1431276220.12865.python-list@python.org> <7169d38e-b21c-472e-b0e3-544ed37fbfd2@googlegroups.com> <mailman.331.1431306462.12865.python-list@python.org> <ad8dd792-a236-4514-9bb5-a90cf21535a4@googlegroups.com> <mailman.334.1431309212.12865.python-list@python.org> <9f72c817-3127-479a-86b5-132eed7b4f96@googlegroups.com>
Date Mon, 11 May 2015 12:20:26 +1000
Subject Re: anomaly
From Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Cc "python-list@python.org" <python-list@python.org>
Content-Type text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-BeenThere python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version 2.1.20+
Precedence list
List-Id General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.338.1431310828.12865.python-list@python.org> (permalink)
Lines 25
NNTP-Posting-Host 2001:888:2000:d::a6
X-Trace 1431310828 news.xs4all.nl 2896 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41375
X-Complaints-To abuse@xs4all.nl
Xref csiph.com comp.lang.python:90334

Show key headers only | View raw

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 7:23:44 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> And I still don't see how this has anything to do with your confusion
>> about shadowing the name 'int'.
>
> Speaking as a compiler-writer -- everything :-)
>
> In C 'int' is tagged off as different from 'myvar' earlier than say
> 'myvar' is different from 'printf'. The "define" in "#define" even earlier
>
> Python sure has different rules of such 'tagging-off'
> However all programming languages are the same in that you cant 'do semantics'
> until you have finished 'doing syntax'
> And name resolution is in a fuzzy area between the two --
> Ask a theoretician about 'type-checking' and you will  hear: "This is just
> context-sensitive syntax"
> Ask a compiler-writer and you get: "Part of the semantic analysis module"

Right, I understand that 'int' may be a keyword... but that would mean
it's impossible to run the OP's code anyway. If "class int(str): pass"
works, it can't really do anything other than redefine the name "int"
to indicate a null subclass of "str" - or is there something else I've
missed?

ChrisA

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Re: anomaly Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 10:42 -0600
  Re: anomaly Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 09:48 -0700
    Re: anomaly Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-10 18:21 +0100
    Re: anomaly Gary Herron <gherron@digipen.edu> - 2015-05-10 10:28 -0700
      Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-11 13:19 +1000
    Re: anomaly boB Stepp <robertvstepp@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 14:12 -0500
      Re: anomaly Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-05-11 13:37 +0000
        Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-12 02:35 +1000
          Re: anomaly Mel Wilson <mwilson@the-wire.com> - 2015-05-11 20:48 +0000
            Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-12 12:18 +1000
    Re: anomaly Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-11 08:40 +0100
    Re: anomaly Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 17:44 +1000
    Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-11 12:15 +0200
      Re: anomaly John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-05-12 17:47 -0700
        Re: anomaly Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 17:56 -0700
          Re: anomaly Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-05-12 19:16 -0700
            Re: anomaly Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 19:31 -0700
    Re: anomaly Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-11 11:40 +0100
    Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-11 13:39 +0200
      Re: anomaly Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-05-11 14:58 +0300
        Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-11 15:27 +0200
          Re: anomaly Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-05-11 17:03 +0300
            Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 07:56 -0700
              Re: anomaly Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-05-11 20:32 -0400
            Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-12 13:34 +0200
          Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-12 01:44 +1000
            Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 09:17 -0700
            Re: anomaly Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-05-11 20:33 -0400
            Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-12 14:31 +0200
      Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-11 22:34 +1000
        Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-11 15:38 +0200
        Re: anomaly Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 00:13 +1000
        Re: anomaly Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-12 17:37 +1200
        Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-12 13:55 +0200
          Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-12 23:56 +1000
            Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 08:34 -0700
              Re: anomaly Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 01:43 +1000
                Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 20:39 -0700
              Re: anomaly Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-12 17:19 +0100
                Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-13 08:19 -0700
              Re: anomaly Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 11:22 -0500
                Re: anomaly Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-13 13:58 +1000
              Re: anomaly Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-12 12:07 -0600
            Re: anomaly Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-12 16:23 -0400
            Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-13 09:07 +0200
          Re: anomaly Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-13 12:19 +1200
            Re: anomaly Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-13 09:23 +0200
        Re: anomaly Gary Herron <gherron@digipen.edu> - 2015-05-12 09:07 -0700
    Re: anomaly Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-11 12:47 +0100
    Re: anomaly boB Stepp <robertvstepp@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 07:43 -0500
    Re: anomaly boB Stepp <robertvstepp@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 07:26 -0500
  Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 17:48 -0700
    Re: anomaly Gary Herron <gherron@digipen.edu> - 2015-05-10 18:07 -0700
      Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 18:18 -0700
        Re: anomaly Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 11:53 +1000
          Re: anomaly zipher <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 19:09 -0700
          Re: anomaly Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-10 19:12 -0700
            Re: anomaly Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-11 12:20 +1000
        Re: anomaly BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-11 12:55 +0100

csiph-web