Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.lang.python > #27167

Re: type(None)()

From Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com>
Subject Re: type(None)()
Date 2012-08-16 15:56 +0100
References <502cebf4$0$6905$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> <CALwzidkyeXZBPqrXJqisyYkhcs3P_tamc22Njf5k9ckHZcxqCA@mail.gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.3366.1345129024.4697.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

Show all headers | View raw


On 8/16/12 2:56 PM, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> On 8/08/12 04:14:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> NoneType raises an error if you try to create a second instance. bool
>>> just returns one of the two singletons (doubletons?) again.
>>>
>>> py> type(None)()
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>    File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
>>> TypeError: cannot create 'NoneType' instances
>>
>> Why is that?
>>
>> Why doesn't it just return an existing instance of the type,
>> like bool, int, str and other built-in non-mutable types do?
>
> Because unlike those other types there is no use case for that.  It's
> simpler to raise an error.

What are the use cases for the empty-argument versions of bool(), int(), 
float(), and str()?

-- 
Robert Kern

"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
  that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
  an underlying truth."
   -- Umberto Eco

Back to comp.lang.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

type(None)() Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-08-16 14:47 +0200
  Re: type(None)() Laszlo Nagy <gandalf@shopzeus.com> - 2012-08-16 14:54 +0200
  Re: type(None)() Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 23:37 +1000
  Re: type(None)() Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 07:56 -0600
  Re: type(None)() Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-16 13:58 +0000
    Re: type(None)() Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2012-08-16 17:31 +0200
    Re: type(None)() Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2012-08-16 17:44 +0200
    Re: type(None)() Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-08-16 09:06 -0700
  Re: type(None)() Robert Kern <robert.kern@gmail.com> - 2012-08-16 15:56 +0100
  Re: type(None)() MRAB <python@mrabarnett.plus.com> - 2012-08-16 16:13 +0100
  Re: type(None)() Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2012-08-16 09:07 -0700

csiph-web