Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets.

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Date	2012-08-10 08:53 +1000
Subject	Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets.
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Message-ID	<mailman.3132.1344552827.4697.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Dave Angel <d@davea.name> wrote:
> On 08/09/2012 06:03 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> O(n) for all other entries in the dict which suffer a hash collision
>> with the searched entry.
>>
>> True, a sensible choice of hash function will reduce n to 1 in common
>> cases, but it becomes an important consideration for larger datasets.
>
> I'm glad you're wrong for CPython's dictionaries.  The only time the
> lookup would degenerate to O[n] would be if the hash table had only one
> slot.  CPython sensibly increases the hash table size when it becomes
> too small for efficiency.
>
> Where have you seen dictionaries so poorly implemented?

In vanilla CPython up to version (I think) 3.3, where it's possible to
DoS the hash generator. Hash collisions are always possible, just
ridiculously unlikely unless deliberately exploited.

(And yes, I know an option was added to older versions to randomize
the hashes there too. It's not active by default, so "vanilla CPython"
is still vulnerable.)

ChrisA

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save dictionary to a file without brackets. giuseppe.amatulli@gmail.com - 2012-08-09 13:11 -0700
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roman Vashkevich <vashkevichrb@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 00:22 +0400
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-08-09 15:35 -0500
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Giuseppe Amatulli <giuseppe.amatulli@gmail.com> - 2012-08-09 15:35 -0500
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Gelonida N <gelonida@gmail.com> - 2012-08-09 22:35 +0200
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Giuseppe Amatulli <giuseppe.amatulli@gmail.com> - 2012-08-09 15:38 -0500
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roman Vashkevich <vashkevichrb@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 00:41 +0400
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-09 22:17 +0100
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-08-09 16:21 -0500
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roman Vashkevich <vashkevichrb@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 01:34 +0400
    Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Andrew Cooper <amc96@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-08-09 23:03 +0100
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-09 18:26 -0400
        Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Andrew Cooper <amc96@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-08-09 23:54 +0100
          Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-09 19:05 -0400
            Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 09:14 +1000
              Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-09 19:24 -0400
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-10 00:33 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-08-09 19:16 -0500
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-10 08:54 +0000
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-10 10:37 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2012-08-10 08:29 -0400
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-10 15:47 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-08-12 17:15 -0700
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-13 08:05 +0000
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 09:16 -0700
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 08:55 -0700
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 13:37 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 09:14 -0700
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 18:07 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-14 02:54 +0000
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 12:33 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Alister <alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2012-08-14 15:05 +0000
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-14 19:15 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-08-13 18:43 +0100
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. alex23 <wuwei23@gmail.com> - 2012-08-13 18:32 -0700
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2012-08-10 12:34 -0400
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-09 20:27 -0400
                Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 10:31 +1000
          Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-09 19:38 -0400
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2012-08-09 17:39 -0500
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2012-08-09 15:37 -0700
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 08:53 +1000
        Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-08-11 11:26 +0000
          Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-12 04:59 -0700
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 09:01 +1000
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-09 19:42 -0400
      Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-09 22:35 -0700
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2012-08-09 17:46 -0400
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Dave Angel <d@davea.name> - 2012-08-09 17:47 -0400
    Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-10 10:46 -0700
    Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2012-08-10 10:46 -0700
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2012-08-09 14:49 -0700
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2012-08-09 14:51 -0700
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Giuseppe Amatulli <giuseppe.amatulli@gmail.com> - 2012-08-09 16:53 -0500
  Re: save dictionary to a file without brackets. Roman Vashkevich <vashkevichrb@gmail.com> - 2012-08-10 02:02 +0400

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